No sex drive at all.
As the topic describe I have lost my libido in a age of 24.
3 weeks ago my libido was half on/off. I was with my girl and I could get an erection, and maintain it for a couple of minutes and actually perform abit in the bed.
Now just 1 week ago, the libido is totally gone. I couldn't get hard at all no matter how, and now I don't know what to do.
I was at the doctor yesterday to get bloods done, hopefully I get them before Christmas.
Cycle:
12 weeks of Test-E 500mg/week
which ended in Oktober, so I've been off for 1½ month now without PCT.
Following I had a break on 2 weeks, to let the test leave the body. Afterwards I did take only 1 week of Winstrol 75mg/day.
This is the first cycle I've done.
I have Clomid and Nolva for the standard 100/100/50/50 & 40/40/20/20
Besides that I do HcG 2500UI Mon/Thurs for 3 weeks.
This is 3rd day on Clomid/Nolva.
Now I know that I should have taken PCT 2 weeks after the last Test was done. But I didn't, kinda stupid of me..
Questions:
My knowledge about this is poor, so I hope there would be someone out there to give me some guidelines how to get back my libido and how is my future looking?
What concerns me is that when I've taken HcG, the day after my sex drive is decent again, the next day it's gone. Is this normal? And is it good to do HcG during PCT?
Would Nolva/Clomid/HcG bring my libido back and how long does it take before I can feel anything?
What is your own experience about getting back sex drive?
UPDATED 16/1-2017 17:24am.
FSH 0,3 (normal range 1-15) IU/L
LH 0,2 (1,5-10,5) IU/L
Free Test 0,50 (0,24-69) NMOL/L
Test 17,2 (10,3-27,4) NMOL/L
Estradiol 0,9 (<0,2) NMOL/L
NOTICE:
2 days before I got my bloods done, I did 2500iu HcG.
I did get my sex drive for couple of days after HcG, afterwards it went down again.
I have an idea that it may have affected my Free test/Test niveau, since it says normal range and my drive isn't there.
UPDATED 26/1-2017 16:42am.
So after all the Clomid/Nolva worked and I'm currently back to normal again and feeling great.
I did as described 100/100/50/50 & 40/40/20/20. After the PCT ended I was still in a bad shape. First 1-2 weeks after I was done with PCT, I got sex drive back working.
I hope that this thread will help other who's been in the same situation as me.
And thanks for all the feedback here.
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The_RockYou are supposed to use hCG during the cycle, not after. If you get into a car accident and did not wear a seatbelt, wearing a seatbelt afterwards is not going to mitigate the damage.
Go to a doctor with this but they re not educated specifically in steroid, so he will transfer you to a specialist who deals in the field of medicine.
The easiest thing to do is 6-8 weeks of 20mg tamoxifen every day.
no clomid, no hcg! stay away from these.
you will be all good with tamoxifen only.
some aromasin here and there will help also.
get some vitamin d3 also and dose it with 20.000IU every day.
KesxSo I did finish my PCT and the problem is still the same, nothing have changed.
I got my bloods done now, but I don't know if that is to count on, since I did HcG just 2 days before bloods was taken. I suppose that affects my free test/test since it's "natural test" I get into the body?
I consider trying another PCT with something different which may help, but I don't know which I should start on?
I'm going to the doctor tomorrow and hopefully he can direct me to endo with some experience within the area.
For future reference, you should either use hcg during cycle, so that your nads don't atrophy/shrink, or begin using it as soon as the esters from whichever form of test that you took die down (I.e. Enanthate is roughly 2 weeks, Prop is a few days). So let's say you took your last shot of test E today, than you'd want to wait about 2 weeks before starting the hcg. Run the hcg until finished (250-500 per dose ed or eod), wait another 3-4 days after your last hcg injection and begin your normal Clomid/Nolva pct. This is a stupid thing to say but be sure to inject the HCG into your stomach fat and not your muscles. Doses of Clomid and Nolva will vary depending on how long your cycle was and amount of test used weekly. For a longer and higher cycle I've read that using Clomid at 100/100/100/50 and Nolvadex at 40/40/40/20/20/20 works best. So you want to run your Nolva longer then the Clomid. Hope that helps!
Yes go to a doctor and get some help. You're all over the place here. I mean why are you fucking taking HCG at the end of your pct? And why are you getting a blood test at the end of your pct? You need to wait 6 to 8 weeks before testing. These things take time and it's my experience the many many times I've PCT'd that libido tends to return for me a couple of weeks after PCT. clomid for example is notorious for causing libido issues. Your age is showing and I believe you're panicking. But yes go see that doctor and never again touch steroids.
KesxI'm currently on last week of PCT of 100/100/50/50 & 40/40/20/20.
I can get an erection now, but not at the same level and I cannot maintain it for so long.
So what I can conclude is that the PCT i've taken so far have increased my libido, but not enough to get it back to the same natural level as it was before.
Should I just give it some time after my PCT has end and wait for it to hopefully get back by itself, or should I prepare myself for another PCT?
Continue pct. If your in week 4. Run two more weeks of clomid and 3 more of nolva. Get your self some daa. Then go to a dr get bloods. And stay away from steroids. Too young.
KesxSo 2 more clomid of 50/50 and 3 more nolva 20/20/20?
Never heard of daa before?
Yea mate. D aspartic acid. Take morning noon night. Will help you.
If you were going to use HCG you should've done it at the tail end of the cycle, not in PCT. Just continue with Nolva at 40/40/20/20 and Clomid at 100/100/50/50. Also taking just Winny by itself instead of PCT was a mistake. It may take a while to recover because of the way you did this but stick with the PCT and count it as a lesson learned.
BECAUSE you were just on test I think that your PCT will work. I know that you take Winstrol for a week, but IMO this will not change your PCT
When I used hcg I found for myself that the recommended dosage was not enough for me, so I just upped a little bit.
If you have used prohormones or nand/tren you would need cabaser, but you said it was just test and wins right?
But then again, cabaser (dostinex) helped me to get better erection's even when I was on test only.
If you don't want to wait and your gf gets bored already, then you should order some Viagra or cialis.
I had libido problems when I had no idea of the aas world and friends gave me some prohormones that I should eat like candy.. my Libido was gone for months! So I know how it feels
Summary:
Up the hcg a little bit and wait for recovery
If you can't wait
Try cabaser, Viagra or cialis
KesxOnly Test and Win as mentioned, first time I ever do AAS.
I'm really confused of this, some say I shouldn't use HcG since it will slow down the PCT and some say that it will help recover faster.
I wish there was a facit somewhere.
Thanks for the reply tho.
Hcg will bring up your balls and libido but will rise your estrogen too. That's fact and you can read it everythere.
People don't recommend it for pct because it will rise your estrogen.
But if you have no sex drive I would bring up your balls first. Thats just my opinion.
But when you have sex drive again, taper your hcg intake down. Don't forget to keep clomid longer in your pct than the hcg because of the mentioned estrogen rise on hcg.
That is not the reason. The reason is that you are tricking the body into thinking that there is plenty of LH/FSH floating around so the body has no reason to stimulate the lydig cells to get things going on its own.
KesxAlright, if that's true I'd rather stay away from HcG and have low sex drive abit longer to recover faster.
Stay away from HCG and follow Mak's advice. Run your PCT and ride out the rough patch you're going through.
I didn't see him say anything about taking Arimidex. Could estrogen be the prob?I take 500 mg a week sust and even though my test is high my estrogen goes up with it sometimes and kills my sex drive. I need 1 mg Arimidex every other day and within a couple weeks my drive comes back. If i start to lose sex drive again, I lay off the Arimidex and it starts to come back. It's tricky for me to control.
Post up a pic of your girl. Let's see what your working with.
I LOL'd... That's funny Af
HAha!
Run a 4-6 week PCT. Don't fucking cut corners next time.
Lol!
hcg if you are going to take it it is like a natural test so it will have to be spread out to really get affects from taking it so it stays in your body but since your body is down that is why after a day or two you can't get up cause your body is trying to kick in but can't just yet it will take time be patient I know it sucks but it will come back look around on here and you'll find all the test names you need to tell your doctor you want tested. Best luck man
Sounds to me like youre still reboundung. Taking 1 week of winstrol was a bit silly, and probably delayed your recovery. Give it time and continue pct protocol IMO. There is typically always a stretch of time when libido goes down with test and remains low as your body tries to reboot. Good pct meds help lessen this downtime.
Bloodwork will give the definitive answer, but until then carry on as scheduled. Whatever you do DONT jump back on testosterone just because you had a limp dick. Time off is good.
Yes wait for the bloods from the doctor and tell him what you took be up front and I would recommend getting post cycle clomid and novadex and trying a good post cycle if he agrees be smart and do research I was almost in the same boat with people saying this and that but you have to go past what the people in front of you say and find research from experienced people and these things can be avoided plus wait a few years to do steroids. Make sure you are the best natural you and you have diet and training in check first. Believe me I stop a few weeks into my first cycle because after research I found I truly wasn't ready like I had hoped for these things take time and patients but it's worth it!
KesxI already told him all, thing is he have no experience or knowledge about it. He didn't know what bloods to take, so I explained to him.
Alright, I'm already on Clomid/Nolva, and also HcG. Somewhere I read HcG is ment to be taken during cycle and not as PCT. I'm abit confused about that tho.
Don't take the HCG during PCT. All you are doing is short circuiting the lydeg cells now and you will not give them a chance to reboot with the PCT meds. HCG is to be taken during cycle or right before PCT, never during PCT.
KesxAlright I didn't know of that.. The day before i went to get bloods done, I actually did HcG injection. Does this have any effects on the results?
Did you do cycles before you were 24?
Sorry if you already answered that, I'm just trying to follow along.
The bloods results are what you need. Going to a doctor was a smart idea. You're too young to be using AAS. You need to be focusing 100% on your recovery with your doctor. Restoring your HPTA to what your youthful self had it at.
This stuff is nothing to play with. You can do serious damage with long term repercussions. Forget AAS. Recover, diet, train, repeat for a few years.
KesxI haven't done any cycles before than this. When I finished my 12 weeks cycle of Test-E, I had a friend telling me I could continue with more steroids without PCT since its my first time.
I was about to begin another cycle, but then I experienced this problem with my libido.
The bloods I made is: Overall Test, Free Test, FSH, LH and Estradiol. Did I forget anything althougt they are sent to the lab?
How long since your last shot of test E?
KesxLast shot was taken 27th October. So 1½ month ago.
Then I had 2 weeks break, until I did Winstrol 75mg/day for 1 week.
So it is fairly about 1 month now I haven't been on anything.