Popping Vials and Pinning Oils- Cycle Advice Seriously
So I am about to start my 3rd blast/cycle. Previous blasts:
1st blast 10 weeks long
Test E 600mg
Test C from Doc 150mg
Dbol 30-50mgs 1-3 weeks
Adex .5mg EOD
2nd Blast 20 weeks
Sust 900mgs but backed down to 600mgs due to gyno.
EQ 600mgs
Tri Tren blend 400mgs
Tren A 150mgs EOD last 4 weeks
Dbol 30-50mgs 1-4 weeks
Winny 50-80 mgs last 4 weeks
Proviron 50-100mgs ED last 6 weeks
T3 50-100mcgs last 3 weeks
AMAZING cycle!!!
I am looking for advice of the Deca dose and if I should run GH. Below is what I'm looking at doing.
20 weeks
Test C 400mgs
Test PH 100mgs
EQ 700mgs
Deca 300-600mgs LOOKING FOR INPUT HERE!
Dbol 30-50mgs weeks 1-4
Adrol 50mgs ED weeks 7-10
Winny 50-80mgs weeks 16-20
Proviron 50mgs ED
Exemestane for AI
Caber, Nolva, Letro, and Adex on hand
GH- Ang Yellows at 2 ius a day and may work up to 4 ius.
Also thinking of removing deca week 15 and running TrenA to finish at 350mgs a week.
Any advice on the Deca dosage, switch with Tren and the end, and the GH would be great. Thanks!
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3rd cycle and you wanna add GH? Why? Save GH for 5 years down the road. Get what you can from food and gear first. No need to blow your load early.
You really think it's a bad idea to add GH in a low daily dose? I will probably drop the GH either way, but I'm curious why you think it's such a bad idea. Tbansk for the input.
From my observation GH is best applied to guys that already carry a lot of muscle mass. Dudes that start GH early in their cycling career seem to stay small and cut with little change from year to year. Maybe it has something to do with the metabolism increase from the GH or perhaps not learning how to truly eat to gain.
Thanks man! I really appreciate your opinion. That's what I was looking for from this board.
Dont worry about the gh. What about al the orals. You do this your fkd guaranteed. Your body will not handle it. You liver, kidneys and prostate will suffer big. Im not fucking joking im being serious. Re evaluate entire cycle or suffer consequences. Besides the multiple stack of orals and that includes proviron which is a dht, all the ancillaries tax your system aswell. You do this and your going to hospital sometime in near future. Just being reAl
Spot on about the liver, kidneys, and prostate.
Thanks for responding with your opinion. I will defiantly re-evaluate my plan with the orals and GH. Thanks.
Gh is not the problem. Its the rest. Thick blood, hypertension, fuck you will almost die i reckon. Ive done test, deca, eq, drol cycles, ive ran heavy cycles and doses but honestly i am shaking my head at your cycle and previous cycles. Im not being a cunt im being real with you. The lust of issues and sides you will suffer straight up and long term is hefty, fkn crazy cycle mate too much. You gotta tone it down. More isnt better and thats truth.
RustyhookerSerious effed up ideas you got. 3cc yo!
Smh
Liver transplant and kidney failure cycle. Lot of pills. Smfh.
One word DAMN!!! lol If your going to run all that definitely drop some orals, leave the proviron though. I wouldn't mix up deca and tren in the same cycle that's just asking for problems. You can frontload with test ph or prop and npp and forget the dbol and adrol all together. Less compounds, easier to manage problems if they arise. Good luck! and I don't know shit about GH, i know its expensive and some say over rated.
Thanks for the input. I think frontloading with NPP/Prop is exactly what I'm going to do and dropping the orals. Thanks man. I have heard that about GH a few times now as well.
Proviron over 25mg makes me feel like shit i did 50mg a day for a week and had massive headaches dropped back to 25mg and felt fine with good results maybe I have some strong stuff
Smh. Twiggies.
Insane that you have ran all these compounds in 2-3 cycles. And for that you really dont have much to show for it bro. Some muscle and lots of acne. Looks like you need to slow your roll and eat big and lift big and stop relying on every compound under the sun.
Simple test and deca run with a big appitite would suffice but from the looks of it your extremely afraid to put a little bit of bf on and are eating like your in prep while trying to bulk. The whole thing is fucked up here and you need to be real with yourself and this mess.
Thanks for you input. I had acne as a kid and figured it would come back, and it did even on my TRT dose from the doc. The 900mgs of Sust did make it worst that's why I'm running the test much lower this time. I went from being a skinny fat distance runner at 160 to 201lbs at the peak of my last cycle. I am not scared to put BF on sir. I did a cut the last 8 weeks to try and uncover my progress from the past 3 years.
I am going to drop all the orals except the Anadrol and Proviron. What do you suggest for dosages on the Test and Deca?
Also what you saw that I'm eating is what I'm eating currently after eating dirty for the whole month of December. I will actually be working with an IFBB pro on my diet, but when I was bulking I was eating much much more than what I typed out below.
Again thank you for your input and your repsonse. May. It be the response that I wanted but I do appreciate it.
Stick to a basic 2-1 ratio test-deca. Ai and cabaser also.
Surely you must understand after reading all these comments that you been taking all this too far with the drugs. If you can't put on size with test, deca and food then this lifestyle is not for you. Think long term health brother.
Daaaaaamn that's 14 weeks total of orals! That's way to much! Let the Deca and EQ do its job. You have way to much here. I'd drop the Anadrol all together and the Winstrol. Or stop the dbol and switch it for Anadrol. But not both Jesus man...
You don't need half this amount to make great gains. I'm guessing you need diet help honestly.
Thanks for the input man. My diet is exetremely clean and timed. I eat every 2 hours, and "generally" 4oz of lean meat, 1/2 cup of greens, and 1/2 cup of jasmine. Breakfast is 8 eggwhites, half cup oats, TBSP PB, and half a banana. Post WO is 8 egg whites, 1/2 cup oats, 1 scoop "Real Food" and half a banana. Once I start I will slowly increase the protein and carbs.
Again, thank you for the input and I think I will cut down the orals to just Anadrol. Thanks man.
Bro you need to eat! Egg whites while bulking? Wtf lol
+1 for keeping it real!!! Food, not drugs is what's needed here
Stop fucking around and eat whole eggs! More oats, more than 4oz of meat! This is what a women's diet looks like while cutting and your trying to gain here correct?
I have not started yet. That is what I am currently eating while I'm on 150mgs for TRT. Like I stated I will increase the carbs and protien once I start the blast. I eat a shit ton once I blast and I'm trying to add size. I'll comeback once I get started and update this post with what I'm eating. I will start eating whole eggs during the blast.
3rd cycle....my advice is don't run that cycle.
Can you give me a suggestion or advice on a cycle rather than telling me no don't do it?
Well I have ran plenty of cycles and the best cycles are the simplest. I wouldn't even attempt that cycle for my bulk because it is completely over the top and unnecessary. I am only running 2 AAS compounds during my current bulk and it is my best so far. I am not going to write out a cycle for you but hopefully you get the idea that the best cycles are often the simplest cycles. Concentrate on food not compounds. That should give you an idea where to start.
BOOM!!! X2
^^^^^^This. "the best cycles are the simplest." Boom!
Stats
Age: 29
Height: 5'6"
Weight: 190
BF: 15%
What exactly is your goal with all this? This is a lot of gear and I'm sure most of the vets would be able to help you accomplish these goals without putting 10 mL's of oil in you a week.
My goals is to put on more muscle and size on. It is only 6ml at the most of oil a week. It is a lot of gear but I am focused and dedicated to this lifestyle. I literally focus on BB all day, and always learn. I might back the orals off a bit but the oil compounds are staying but j may adjust the dosages, and that is the advice I am after. If you have a better cycle for gaining mass I'm all ears.
Well first and foremost you would need to indicate the macros you're working with because the amount of drugs you're using is irrelevant unless your nutrition is on point. Secondly, the normal test to deca ratio is 2-1 so if you're running 500 mg of test you should not run more than 250 mg of deca until after you know hoe your body will respond. You should start with npp since it's more manageable and should you act adversely it will be out of your system much faster but i'd still recommend against putting your body under that stress just yet. All those orals is a terrible idea. You're going to put a lot of stress on your liver. The proviron is fine. I'm not trying to tell you how to run your life however I am telling you this is too much. If you want the vets with more experience to give you useful advice I'd also suggest being more open to listening to it. The whole statement about the oils staying is a quick way to get greater minds than ours to say "fuck it he's not going to pay attention to my advice so I won't give it to him". Just my 2 cents. As far as offering you a better bulk I can't do that. I'm just not educated enough however I am educated enough to know that this is a bad idea.
Thank you for the response and constructive words. As far as the oils go I have a good understanding how I react to Test and EQ and I want to try Nandrolone Decanate for this 3rd blast. I only said I'm sticking to these compounds because I don't want comments like"switch the Deca for Tren" which is the response I have gotten other places. The orals are taxing on the liver, and I monitor my enzymes and blood work very othen. This does not make me bullet proof! I am not so head strong that I won't listen to advice, but I want the advice to be directed at the deca dosage and GH in the cycle. Again and seriously thank you for your opinion and help.