Nolvadex with cycle
46yrs old 185lbs...been on test cyp for years due to low T...200 once a week ...my last cycle I went to 500 test cyp twice a week and 300Deca for a 12 week cycle (no gyno issues at all during and after) . I reacted very well and maybe a slight rise in blood pressure. Been 6 months and getting ready to front load with 30ml Dbol for the first 4 weeks. My question is that I have some fresh nolvadex and wanted to know a proper safe dosage to take to combat any gynecomastia as a precautionary measure that wouldn't impede the dbol phase if that makes sense to the veterans? Not worried about the tail end of the cycle as I did extremely well transitioning back to the "cruising "test of 200test cyp weekly. I'm siding with caution and fine with MORE improvements than the last cycle and not Extreme improvement and there be time down the road for that.
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Hey Placebien, I ended up getting letro for my AI and take .5 every 2 days for this first month while on dbol. Don't feel any negative sides from that and don't want any so just being cautious . Once the Deca kicks in I will just use as needed . Last test deca cycle went good and no deca dick to speak of but when I ran that through 12 total weeks I'm on a trt cruise dose all the time so there really wasn't a crash. This time may be different . Been on dbol for 2 weeks now along with 500test cyp/250 deca...noticed I have gas left in the tank after usual workouts and increase in weight on most exercises and have added sets also so all is heading the right direction! Wierd thing is I don't feel the lactic acid burn that I've grown to love! Haha
thx bro
Thanks GrowMore...I've got some Winney coming as part of the promotion I mentioned earlier but I'm going to use it on the next go around and will be a first also. Just got word that the Novola is going to be substituted now and aromasin is it but Still contemplating the dbol.wanted to get some weight on with something safe on this one
I love big cycles and can see you're ready for one, personally though I'd drop the dbol.. it's only going to give you little results with the potential for big problems in my humble opinion.
Grab some aromasin, run test only, test bloods and see where you are after 5 weeks. If everything is right I'd add proviron like the lads mentioned, or you could add another injectable with low sides.
i am wicked sensitive to gyno but none of the estrogen sides bother me so i take 20mg nolva during my cycle and it keeps just the gyno at bay. i get puffy nipples just looking at the bottle so thats why 20mg/day instead of 10mg. Aint taking no chances. I dont take an an AI because i need the water for my joints. The nolva only binds to the breast receptors to prevent estrogen from binding but not much for else. Thats for a 500mg deca and 500mg test c cycle. But after a lot of advice on here next cycle that high i will get bloods done and maybe get on an AI. I am also an amateur and stick to basics
hi brother , did you use anti prolactin with deca such as prami or caber ? did you get the deca dick ?? coz i wanna try deca and i have read only the negative things about it , what do you think .??
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What pic do you want me to post on this topic? Can't figure out how to attach a pic with my name if that's what you're looking for???
I didn't need either for deca. I know about 12 guys on deca and they didn't get deca dick while mixed with test. And no need for prolactin, no deca sides. deca is a great side for test. I have never had a bad experience or heard anyone who has except online but online we are looking at thousands of thousands of people so of course there are the odds. I know a few dudes who did deca only cycles and recovered fine and no deca dick. I wouldn't try it though.
Thanks brother
Funny how different people respond to things differently. 20mg of Nolva on cycle did nothing for me. I blew up like a balloon on 500mg test and had itchy nips. I must run Exemestane now.
I appreciate all the input ! The deca last time served my joints well and for the most part didn't have that nagging presence of pain in shoulders. (One more than the other) wanted to introduce another compound in this winter for a bulking/get over some plateaus to be honest. My logic is cheating somewhat but we all get stuck waiting/training for that breakthrough. I cut weight quickly so no apprehension on taking on temporary water weight . I read that some cycles guys were taking a couple weeks of dbol on the front end then a couple on the tail end siting easier on the liver ? Right off the jump I notice a gap between weeks 3 and 4 deca hasn't really kicked in...
Dbol/ deca/test stack reads as a common stack combo so I went with that, not married to it. Physically my body fat is low but don't know an exact number but it's where you can easily see my muscle fibers across chest and shoulders and when I brush my teeth,while holding brush up for minutes,drop arm down and purple bruises appear then slowly fade away! Haha
Like I said the TNE/DBOL was free so nothing lost if not taken...
I have no experience with the D and Tbol...is privoron on the ai recommended and what dosage for the small amount of D? I've got spun around in my head reading mixing personal experience cycles of others in forums with the basics and I can wait til I get the best gear to maximize my next cycle safely by putting in the effort ahead of time,during and after. That seems to to be the widespread approach
Proviron is not a substitute for an AI. It's a wonderful addition to a cycle though.
Even just running test + Provi would do you good, may want to look into that.
Totally agree. It's probably my favorite oral for so many reasons (including the ones my wife appreciates lol) but definitely should not be relied upon as your AI for a cycle. In my 40's and almost all I will run anymore is test and provi. Running all the other compounds, unless you're competing or a pro athlete of some sort, kind of ridiculous in my opinion. Done properly...stuffing your face and hitting the hell out of the gym...that will get you all the results you need as an amateur. Just my two cents
PEZ not Peter....auto correct
Hey Peter, I have some TNE/dbol 75/50 blend coming as from a promotion . Think that would be better to run instead instead of the dbol alone at a lower dose to accomplish the same without the "watery" effect you mentioned? Don't know if I can pull it off because of the ratio
Have you any experience running TNE? It's an entirely different animal...
In all honesty, you could just put the oral off until the next cycle... no point trying to hamstring a cycle together from parts - it's the wrong way to go about building a cycle.
I will get that and do you suggest one with minimal sides with the 30ml Dbol for the 4 weeks? What are most doing and not individual experience? Since I have nothing to compare to as of yet to see how I respond...
I've got the dbol already coming but will order the ai . I don't have an answer on tbol or anavar and may concider that on the next go around. Like you I have/had to try it safely to know it's potential.
I will get that and do you suggest one with minimal sides with the 30ml Dbol for the 4 weeks? What are most doing and not individual experience? Since I have nothing to compare to as of yet to see how I respond...
Dianabol is such watery, aromatizing compound. I've run hundreds of tabs, and looking back it is just an unnecessary headache. May I purpose Turniabol or Anavar?
Use your ai to control estro and prevent potential gyno in the first place. Nolva isn't a subtitute for an ai.