fat loss stack GH, T3 and Clen with anabolics
hey guys, ill keep it short as possible
I am running 500 test e, 400 mast e and 500 eq, my goal is to shed as much fat, so I can do a big bulk cycle and go for the "jacked" look
so far its going very well. i am 200lbs 5'8. i haven't lost a lot of weight my gut has gone WAY down.
my calories are 3000
carbs 100 to 200grams
and protein is 200grams
in the last 8 weeks, i have done morning cardio every day on an empty stomach, this was a game changer for me
i am also running 4ius of genevatropin GH, and feels great, my nails grow really fast too
so i am starting to finally see my abs come in, i should mention i had a big gut prior to this so its very exciting for me
i am starting to see the outline of my abs. i really want to get rid of the last little pouch hanging off the bottom of my stomach
i wanted to run clen and t3 to see if this works. now my question is
is this too early to use clen and t3? should i weight to get leaner before jumping on since i read i cant run t3 longer than 6 weeks. can i run a lower dose t3 for say 8 weeks and taper off?
i will be cycling clen 2 weeks on and 1 week off
any experienced guys input would be really appreciated as i haven't had results like this in years and just really wanna make it to the "finish line" so to speak. ive never had shredded abs and this time i feel confident i can get there.
thank you in advance for your input!
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In your stats it says 6'1 not even remotely close to 5'8 you have business running all these drugs. Your diet sucks. You need to learn to eat being this life style is 60% diet. How to eat, when to eat, what to eat etc etc carb cycleing learn it. You have no business running the drugs you proposing.
that's the info I gathered here.
I'm not using t3 or clen.
diet it is
donnydon658I 100% didn't read any of this post and am immediately calling BS on the length and title lol Stop being lazy and just diet
well.... i read this post yesterday SMFH and walked away....................... i have to agree with you 100%
i know +3 will not help your karma situation much but im gonna give you anyways for having the guts to come in here and simply be truthful................. +3 for that bro
thanks bro!
dont thank me bro......... my post was addressed to Donnydon not you!
if you want my input i think your plan sucks!
learn nutrition and make it work for you instead of going down lazy road............. man ive been ripped hundreds of times and never used the shit you contemplate using..... i bet your only doing it to look good for the chicks!..... is it worth thyroid fuck ups? why not try good ole fashioned diet and hard graft.
well that's what I gathered is do not use t3 and clen
appreciate everyones feedback. I am not using the t3 and clen.
I have a trainer I use so ill be going back to him to work on my diet. you guys are right. I'm not here to take the lazy road.
Good................ now you get a +3
Testrogen_PropC...T3 is garbage and will make your body burn muscle. Stay far away from it. And you don't need clenbuterol either. All you need is a proper diet and cardio to go with your resistance training.
Looking shredded is all about calories in and calories out my man. Try to keep the majority of your daily carb intake around pre and post workout, with just enough to keep you metabolic throughout the rest of the day (minus any fasted cardio)
thank you. I will keep my carbs for before and after my weight training. and I have totally felt great not eating any carbs throughout the day so I know this is working really well
All you need is good vibrations ;)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oDB06Shv8zY
baahahah = )
T3 and clen are going to leave you flat and stringy looking. Steer clear of both of them. T3 is non-selective in the tissue it burns. It will burn just as much muscle as fat so in the end when you stop taking it your metabolism can be worse off then when you started and it will actually make it easier to gain fat in the future. You also have to hope that your thyroid rebounds. Just like you play russian roulette with your HPTA and steroids you are doing the same thing with T3 and your thyroid. This all comes down to diet, there is no easy way about it.
This is a much more sensible approach.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/weight-loss/structu...
+1. Great comment. I did not know this about T3. I hope this helps people who search for info about T3.
Also, the link to your thread is still a hell of a kick ass tool for those who will listen.
this post is absolutely fantastic. I really appreciate this Makwa. I really understood what you said. and clearly general consensus is stick and focus to diet. up the cardio. lower carbs, then carb cycle.
this is amazing thanks so much bro
one question, can you tell me your weight height and caloric intake?
I saw that you are doing 50 to 150grams which is one step up from what I'm doing currently which is 200 150 and 100
I am 190lbs 5ft 8
My TDEE hovers around 3000-3200 cals depending on how lean I am when I start my cut. I usually start around 2700 cals for cutting. Usually I start out with a 30/40/30 split which give me around 270g of carbs to start cut and after all of my carb drops at the end of my diet I am sitting at 50g or less of carbs so on a high carb day when cycling carbs I would put down about 150g or so. Sometimes I'll compensate for extra cals from those extra carbs by knocking down protein/fat and sometimes I accept the extra cals based upon how I am feeling.
so listening to your body is key as well then, cause sometimes I feel sooo tired and I do snack on somethings I shouldn't be. its clean but adds an extra 500 calorie boost and the next day I feel like I have energy again. before I was doing it so wrong I was so bloody tired all the time and just give up
thank you for sharing. I will be tapering and cycling carbs 100%
Carb cycling, timing your carbs around workouts and selective refeeding are all tools you can apply to manage this problem. Look for patterns. For example if you eat low carbs for 3 days and on the 4th day your pattern is to get very low energy and then snack and up your calories then you could simply plan a moderate carb/low fat day that day. The other way I do this is I plan my higher carb days around my two leg sessions per week. Then eat low carbs for 4 to 5 of the other days - if I am towards the end of my diet and suffering from low energy etc. I will refeed on one day where I take my carbs up very high and go into a small surplus (keeping fats very low). This gives me a boost for the next few days of low carbs before my next moderate carb days. Basically dieting sucks and and a large component to being successful is winning the mental battle. You need to find the mental strength to deal with the low energy and generally feeling crap and still not having that 500 calorie snack.
I really appreciate this info Dacky
youre totally right,, I always struggled mentally, I wrecklessly dropped calories or dropped carbs to low didn't know when to refeed, I get so tired and exhausted I just end up quitting
bug this time around I seem to understand a lot more now about the loss
everyones help here has been a tremendous help for reinforcing confidence
thanks so much you guys
No clen no T3
Pasta has you below suggest you edit out the brand names in your post.
Well done on your weight loss. Now you don't need clen or T3. You're doing the right things so get really focused on your nutrition and keep doing that cardio - I agree fasted cardio as many days a week as you can managers the key. Check your TDEE (I would use a Harris-Benedict calculator - use google) and make sure you're shooting for at least 500 calories below maintenance. Adjust this down for every 2kg you loose. Keep your carbs low and fats reasonably high. Do this consistently and you will easily achieve what you want to achieve. I'll say it again....don't use clen or t3. Good luck.
thanks so much bro,
you mean I remove lab name correct? yes I will do that now
I used the harris benedict calculator, I am 5 foot 8ish and 193 lbs and it says my BMR is 2000. that seems way to low. I am eating at least 3000 cals and losing weight and fat.
I read somewhere I take my weight and multiply by 15, which I know is mickey mouse, however it told me I should eat 3000 cals and it worked well for me so far. dropping another 1000 cals will hinder my progress? or is that what I will need to eat to get down to super low body fat as I slowly get rid of the gut?
No that's your BMR you need to adjust this for activity. Use the following calculator - http://m.globalrph.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.globalrph.com%2Fharris-bene... and chose the appropriate activity level. That will give you your TDEE and from this amount subtract 500. That will give you your starting calories for your continued weight loss. As you drop weight you will need to recalculate and adjust down.
Edit: once you've got this worked out post up how many grams of protein, carbs and fats your will target to hit your calories and the sources of food. We will take it from there.
Bingo! Many people get BMR and TDEE confused.
oohhhhh. got it!!!
3400 calories for me, so that's why the 3000 mark has worked for me thus far
and I will need to adjust accordingly as I drop weight
thanks so much brother!!
1) no source talk.
2) you shouldn't be running clen or T3
removed lab name and did not mention where I got it from
thank you, clearly general consensus says don't run either. ill stay away
thank you!
Yeah you need neither of them and they end up wrecking your body as you can tell from Makwa's post. Post up your current diet and routine here, give us a look at what we are working with and how we can help. Makwa and Dacky are excellent when it comes to diet advice.