Advice needed on usage of hcg and building libido
Basically I am a 31 year old male that has just came off a long cycle. I was on cycle from March to about 4 weeks ago. My cycle included Gp sust, Gp Winstrol, and Gp Tren. I have done several cycles and I have completed pct before using only Nolva and Clomid and was successfull in gaining natty levels back. however this time I feel like I have just crashed!!! It's been about 5 weeks from my last pin and I have been using clomid and anastozole every day. I did the clomid 300 the first day 150 second day and have been doing 100 Ed. But I feel like this isn't enough. My clomid and anastozole to me are questionable (only because I got them from a research site that was recommended by my buddy because of price) I'm just wondering if I should get some hcg and see if it helps. I'm already 2 weeks into the clomid and Anastrozole so I didn't know if I should add hcg this late into my pct. One thing is for sure...my sex drive is like non existstant and it's making my girl really mad. I have no problem keepin an erection. The problem is just the desire. I do have an appointment with a endo next week and they will do bloods. Just looking for any advice what so ever on whether to add hcg or possibly run a small dose of test with all this or what??? I feel weaker and have lost nearly 14 pounds in the last month alone. It's like I'm losing all I've worked for. Certainly gonna do a better job planning my next cycle and my next post cycle. Any advice is appreciated!!! Sorry for writing such a long novel here.
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rocketballzDude your first mistake was ordering from a research chem site for pct meds. You're literally playing russian roullette with your balls. ALWAYS get pharmaceutical grade clomid and nolvadex for PCT. It's the most important part IMO. And remind me why your pct protocol consists of clomid and adex?? Where's the Nolvadex? Adex will ultimately produce an estrogen rebound effect which may keep you shut down longer (just a theory). Get PHARMA clomid, tamoxifen (Nolvadex), and pharma aromasin (exemestane). It's a little hard to find lately but sites on here carry the euro generics, which are considered pharma grade.
I thin the first mistake he did that his cycle from March til 4 weeks ago . I think this mean around 5 minutes now . This is his mistake
The problem may be running adex every day. Your estro is probably crashed--getting erection but no sex drive is an indicator.
I'm going to the doctor on Wednesday. If my estro has crashed should I stop using the estro blocker? I absolutely hate the process of cycling off just simply because I have never really done a good pct. never again will I do a cycle without proper pct. I've learned a hard lesson this time. And I may lay off the tren next cycle. I'm sure when the doc does bloods it will show I've been taking the clomid and Anastrozole. I just hope I can get my levels back to normal and most importantly my sex drive back.
I would stop the anastrozole for now since bloodwork is on wed. You can always add it if needed, but if your estro is crashed it takes awhile to recover so you will be ahead of the game. Without taking any exogenous test, I cannot see why you would need to take that daily; even on cycle I only run it 2 or 3 times/week at 0.5mg. Don't worry though, the bloodwork will tell you everything so you will know what you need to do so you will be in good hands. I think you will be back to normal in no time...you just have to balance your hormones. Good luck
Below is a link to a good post on estrogen sides from this forum.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/how-to-tell-...
Thank you guys for all the feedback. I know this is gonna sound stupid as hell but I haven't had bloods done in a long time. The only bloods I have had is blood work for a new job and I know they check LH levels but I'm not sure about prolactin and everything else. Honestly I didn't realize I need to pay attention to all these things. I've done gear for several years now and considered myself fairly knowledgable about things but man was I wrong. I get lost in the everyday life and workflow and should have taken time to get some bloods done. I will most def order me some hcg. I've already added it to my cart on naps. If anyone knows the best brand to use feel free to tell me. As for the endo I will def go to that appointment next week. He is going to do bloods right there on the spot. Now should I be honest and tell homie been blasting gear and more worried I messed myself up or should I try to just say I think I have low t?? I kinda wanna be honest with him so I can get fixed and tell him about my pct. what do you guys think?
Tell'em you'll beat him up if he documents, or mentions, your involvement with AAS. Just kidding! Keep it private. Years ago docs were savvy, not so much now.
doing anything without bloods, in my opinion is just a bad idea. while your research chemicals could have been under dosed or bunk but they could have also been over dosed. on top of it your prolactin could be out of balance. estrogen being low, estrogen being too high or prolactin out of balance; any of these could manifest the symptoms you are listing.
just starting pct over is a guessing game without blood work. just use privatemdlabs.com and get a panel done, including prolactin, test, estrogen, lh and fsh. perhaps even thyroid too. if you decide to go the endo route, don't take drugs of any kind, if you do the blood panel results won't be as accurate.
Run another PCT as stated below. Obtain pharma products and blast the HCG for 5-10 days at 1000iu/day. 4 days after last pin restart standard clomid/nolvadex protocol. This is how I would handle it. Spend the money and grab some pharma ancillaries domestically so you get it quick....plenty here that have it. Good luck and learn your lesson.
X2...with bloods now, maybe during, and especially at different intervals post pct... +2
also what we're your blood results while on cycles?
Pharma only with pct are you kidding you're going to trust your gains and rebound to a research peptide company? HCG is a staple for me before I ever go to Clomid at a high dose, depending how long you were on at what dose etc, I don't like gambles get some pharma hcg, and Clomid.
research chemical copy sites shouldn't be used, especially after a 19 nor, heavy long Cycle. did you use anything for prolactin because I didn't see it listed? I know you're only a few weeks into pct but it still may be worth having bloods pulled
StevebI would run another PCT but with pharma grade this time just to be sure. You can also try one shot of GNRH 100mcg, the worst it can do is not work.
This stuff works really well you can use it for as long as you want.
http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/androtrex-male-hormone-support.html?g...
GNRH is tricky, often times its not legit. also, if you use it wrong you can do serious permanent damage, results in destruction of the negative feedback loop leading to lifetime trt
You have a link to back up the claim of legitimacy? Post it up.
Take a look at this forum. I did the experiment with Pharmagrade trip. My view is it can help but it's not a replacement for a proper PCT. High doses or taking too much too often can result in permanent shut down.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/triptorelin-...
Much obliged...good info..
StevebHow do you know that? Have you bought and tested much? It's pretty cheap and no real reason to sell it fake or bunk.
Notice I said one shot of 100mcg. You would have to take many times that amount for a chemical castration. If you're dumb enough to do that then you shouldn't have kids. Also if it's bunk then worst case scenario is it won't work.
For chemically castrating cancer patients it's over 10mg that's far higher than 100mcg. You can take 100mcg 3 times a year no problem.