posted Sat, 06/06/2015 - 07:39
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I have ran two PCTs since my last Test/Deca cycle and i am still pretty much shut down. I am thinking about running a 3rd PCT using Torem&Clomid. I wanted to know if adding Nolva into this pct would be a good idea? I was thinking Torem/Clomid/Nolva at 90/60/60/30 150/100/100/75 40/40/20/20. I can handle the sides. Here is a link to my last blood work https://www.eroids.com/pics/body-not-responding-to-pct
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There is no pharma torem, and no studies. Just bro science. At this point, you need to test for primary or secondary. Run 2000ius of hcg eod with 10 injections total. day after the last shot, get your test levels checked. Report back with the results.
Your doses overall are way too high. 25mg ED of clomid and 10mg ed of nolva is plenty. You are being led astray brother. Do the hcg test, and let's see how well your balls are working.
^^^ shit advice
Did you even read my post and or look at the link to my bloodwork? Led astray? 25mg of clomid is plenty?
I run Torem after heavy Deca or Tren runs and I find it comes down to how you control your prolactin levels to see if it hinders recovery.
First day I usually have 300mg Torem, 200mg Clomid, then days 2-14 120mg Torem and 100mg Clomid, then days 15-28 I have 60mg Torem and 50mg Clomid. If I run a longer cycle I stretch the PCT out to 6 weeks and keep the dose at the same as days 15-28. With Toremifene I feel switched on and really good in a week of starting compared to the Nolva Clomid PCT, and for PCT I use all pharma grade stuff so I know I'm getting the real deal, recovery is incredibly important to me. Have you even thought about using HMG aswell???
Folks, these doses are just irresponsible. HMG is very expensive and is a last ditch effort given the paucity of research. I am dubious that pharma torem was used.
I am looking into HMG. How do you incorporate it into your PCT?
I stack it in the last few weeks with HCG aswell to get things really into the swing of things so I have I high LH and FSH levels. I shoot 75iu of HMG Monday/Wednesday/Friday for 2-3weeks. Then I commence PCT depending upon if I'm still running HCG or not by then. Either way legit pharma grade HMG should make recovery a hell of a lot easier bro. It's a pricey product but gets the job done for kick starting your balls man. Goodluck aswell!
good advice mate, keep it up.
Hey brother, i also had a hard time recovering from deca. I had some bunk ass pct meds and it took 3 pct to bring me back, this is what i did -for the first 4 days 200mg of clomid/20mg nolva/3g DAA
-for the next 4+ weeks it's clomid (100/100/50/50) nolva (20mg) and 3g DAA
Btw i used DP brand but i wouldnt advise on that, after that ordeal ive been using nothing but pharma pct. i dont think it would hurt to use torem and nolva together but let the vets chime in on this ive never used torem before, good luck brother.
StevebDid you use HCG or caber during your cycle?
Yes i ran 500iu hcg every week. No i never ran Caber or Prami. It has been at least 7 months since i used Deca. Do you think it could be an issue with my progesterone? I figured even if i did have high levels coming off cycle they would be back to normal by now.
His cycle log shows he used HCG and had prami on hand.
did you run caber? prami?
proper pharma grade drugs for pct are needed mate, do not risk with possible bunk meds,
I did use pharma grade. Ran Cipla clomid and Astrazeneca Nolva for my first pct. Then i ran BP. I know BP is not pharma but i have never heard any bad reviews. But i never ran caber or prami, do you think it could be due to a problem with my progesterone this long after taking Deca? I meen it has been atleast 7 months since i stopped.
yes i do mate, and yeah, i know the brand you used i saw your bloods, i have seen many people get bunk bloods back mate, i mean proper pharma, and yea if i were you i would hit caber for a the first 3 weeks of your new 6 week pct.
clomid- 100-100-50-50-50
nolva- 60-40-40-40-40-40
caber- .25 e2d first 3 days.
How would you dose nolva if running aromasin at 12.5mg eod during the pct? When running 6 week pct I usually run both clomid and nova for 6 weeks, is stoping clomid one week early more beneficial?
Should i get bloodwork first to see if i even need to take caber? Say my progesterone levels are normal and i start taking Caber will it cause any sides? If not i will probably just take it and get bloods done after its all over.
if you can obtain bloods easily, do it straight away, get your proper pharma nolva and clomid and start that asap, get your bloods and once confirmed, jump on the caber.
opticxid run the pct 6 weeks this time, better chance of it working