+ 1 Body not responding to PCT
I ran a cycle of TEST and DECA at 700and500mg per week which ended about 9 months ago. After the cycle ended i waited 3 weeks and started PCT of clomid/nolva 100/100/50/50 40/40/20/20 and it did not work. I then bought all Balkan(BP) PCT MEDS and ran a more intense pct starting with HCG at 2500iu eod for 14 days prior to starting my second pct of Clomid/Nolva at 150/100/100/75 40/40/20/20
I got blood work done 2 weeks into this PCT and my Total Test went from 100 to 300 ng/mL, LH went up to normal range but FSH stayed below normal. I finished that PCT and waited a couple months to get bloodwork done and these are the results. At this point i am not sure what to do which is why i am posting this here. I just want to say that i still feel great and don't suffer from any sides of low testosterone. Still doing good in the gym, eating right, and having sex. I have never had high glucose before which also scares me. I am not sure if i should try a different type of pct or go to an endocrinologist. I feel like most endocrinologists have no fucking clue how to treat something like this. I know many people who have gone and they just try to put them on TRT without trying other options. If i was older i wouldn't mind TRT at all but not at 28...
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Also might want to get some triptorelin bro
StevebI think it's always a good idea to use that after a cycle.
How should it be incorporated into a nolva/clomid pct
StevebIt's a one time injection at the end of a cycle.
Would it be better if i ran Clomid, Torem, and Nolva? Or just Clomid and Torem? Also would i need any type of AI?
How soon after the first pct did u test? And it says 2 weeks into sexond pct u tested again? U should wait 6-8 weeks post pct to test
I waited at least 8 weeks. I guess i am just fucked i do not see a point in running a 3rd pct.
I would... try again with hcg and Pharma brand. I have never had issue with bp but who knows. I would blast hcg for 10 days then start. I usually run a protocol of 200/150/100/50 for clomid and 40/40/20/20 and I have great success.
Look into Torem (in place of nolva)
Check out HMG
those would be my next steps. Or go see an endo and just be honest.
How do you feel? I had a fucked pct a year ago or so and felt like shit. no sex drive, gained fat like crazy, didn't want to lift etc.
P2i2tWow...200 clomid would have me messed up! Lol absolute most I can handle is 150. and even that gets me feeling a little funny at times.but unfortunately it may need to be dosed that high by the sounds of it. If the average dose is obviously not working.just be ready to feel a little funny if you are one like me that can't handle all that clomid like others. I mean, it's not going to kill you and ultimately can really do nothing but help you so even if you do feel a little weird just remember that in the end it should be all worth it. Good luck here bro.
See i have taken that much of BP clomid and never felt funny or anything... Now its making me think the shit was bunk.
I feel fine maybe a little less motivated but i still go to the gym alot and have not gained much weight. i am looking into Torem. would it be to much if i ran clomid/nolva and torem?
opticxThere is no guarantee that you can always recover from a cycle, that is why the board gets so strict about being over 25. I would run pct again but this time double the length if you can handle the sides. Also if you over use HCG you can get desensitized to FSH in the testicles.
Dont loose hope but id try it one more round, and good luck finding a good endocrinologist for that, they really have no clue what they are doing.
hunteron20sMy body didnt respond from my last cycle either ..i ran sus and decca ..i am currently finishing a 2nd pct treatment ..i will pull bloods then ..ill share my info if mine worked or not .if you want
What are you running for pct.
rocketballzI would get pharmaceutical grade pct products and maybe give it one more go. You could also try HMG, which is basiucally lh and fsh in a boittle. But I would get brand name Nolvadex, you can find from many sources on here and some pharmaceutical Clomid. I know people say BP is pharma grade, and I'm not saying it isn't, but do yourself a favor and get the real deal. Everything you would need you can find on this site. If that doesn;'t work maybe go talk to an endo to see what he can do for you. Good luck and keep us posted. Thanks for posting
i used Astrazeneca Nolva and BP Clomid. I might try another PCT in a month or two. I will get bloods and see if anything has improved.
Good advice Here.
Hey op, what was your. Base lines before This cycle?
my base line is pretty low at like 450.
High blood sugar, low t and low fsh/lh. You're 5'8", and 290 in your stats. Are those correct? What is your body fat percentage? How many cycles have you run, what did they consist of, and did you get bloods to see how you recovered? Trying to get a clearer picture.