1st midway cycle labs 39 estradiol should I be concerned???
36 y.o 5'11 190lbs
Iam on my 4th week of test cyp
1st 3weeks did 200mg cyp twice a week so 400mg a week.
4th week I bumped it up to 700mg cyp
just got my labs :
39 estradiol
1500 test level. ( thought 1500 was pretty low but then again I was at 300 level before I started cycle could I have gotten a weak batch of cypionate or is this about right for 3 weeks of 400mg cyp a week?)
Any other areas I should be looking for now that I have my lab results?
Am I in a safe range?
I feel fine no sore nipples at all. Picked up 7-9lbs it seems all between week 2-3
My face is chubbier so Iam thinking all the gain is water wieght ( which is why I tested my E2)
I started an over the counter A.I. /slash test booster (LIQUIDEX A.I.) after my test results until I get some Aromasin (expect it here in 2 weeks)
Any advice /critic form the experts??
(Yes I know I should've had my Aromasin on hand before I started but I miss understood and bought Nova thinking I could use that as an A.I.) so now I am taking it step by step with the help from long term users so I don't mess myself up
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Well first off 1500 is the cutoff, your test levels could be 1501, or 3000, we have no way of knowing. Second these labs were done at week 3? Cyponiate is going to continue to build for another 2 weeks or so before it reaches peak plasma levels in your blood meaning your test levels are going to continue to rise, resulting in more conversion to estrogen. At week 3 your test levels are definitely already pretty high but they are going to continue to raise, so I would expect a moderate increase in your estrogen levels. Its best to test around week 5-6. That way everything is stabilized and you can make adjustments if necessary.
And now you bumped up the dose to 700mgs ew which means even longer for things to level out. Not really sure what advice to give you here. it'll be week 7-8 before you can get an accurate reading on your test and e2 levels. If i was in this position i would watch for signs of high e2, gyno, water retention, high bp, moodiness etc. But if at week 3 on 400mgs ew your e2 was 40 before the cyp even fully build up i would imagine on 700mgs ew your e2 will be pretty high, so it may be wise to start an ai. If you have aromasin Id probably start with 6.25mg eod. But this is all a guessing game without blood work. But blood work is kinda useless right now with you messing with your doses.
Is this your first cycle? If so i would suggest going back down to 400-500mgs ew, and then pull bloods around week 6. Do you have a pct lined up? If so whats your plan?
Ok sounds like I jumped the gun on the labs. I read up on so many negative reviews on e2 I think Iam paranoid so I wanted to check it asap. I'll start my a.i asap at low dose and do labs in another 4 weeks. (I'm going to be freaking out till then)
For Pct I plan on running Nova and clomid. I have been reading up on OSTERINE which I like the reviews on it as a bridge so I would like to throw that into my PCT. I just haven't been able to find any info on it either way as to wether or not it will mesh well with the nova and clomid
You're just grasping AI use. There is no need to use a SARM in PCT. Just keep it simple.
I don't know Pez, I carry a lot of weight in my chest. I went back and saw old pics of me as a kid and it seems I always had a flabby pecs. When in my teens I was able to workout and keep it tight but now in my 30's it's seems I can do a billion push-ups to no avail. I don't want to run the risk of gyno if I don't already have it. Unless using clomid and nova for Pct can harm me I am going to run both just in case.
Most guys shoot for between 20 and 40 with 30 being the sweet spot for most.
1500 is more than likely the lab test's max. You have to pay more for to see above 1500.
If My e2 were 39, I wouldn't be happy. I forget what the high range (45-50) is but I go by under 30. Personally, I shoot for the teens.
Thanks Pez! That sucks I wish I would've known I would've paid more to get the accurate test level.
Yeah I'll do the Otc A.i until the pharma stuff gets to me so teen levels in estradiol is achievable?? Good to know I'll work on that thanks man
Pez is probably correct. Does the test show exactly 1500 with a max reading of 1500? learning to control e2 is a bit of trial and error. Bloods will help point you in the right direction. Your e2 at 39 will not cause any adverse sides.. Generally speaking that won't happen until they are much higher. I've chatted with guys that had close to 300 and felt nothing, while others feel the effects much lower.. Careful not to crash your e2 (go to low). It sucks!! Personally is rather be a little high then bouncing around on the low side. Google side effects of high/low estrogen in men. Good look to you bro..
Thanks guys, I was kinda freaked out when I realized my nova wasn't for use during cycle A.I. So should I use Aromasin at a low does in 2 weeks when I get it or keep looking for signs of to much E2 before taking Aromasin??
Yes. 12.5 mg per day. Aromasin works quickly. Wait a week after starting then get bw.. Again read up on estrogen. All of your answer are out there.
Edit: pick a test dose and stay constant i.e. 500mg per week for 10 weeks. If you bounce around so will your e2.