What else to add to keep lean gains??
Being a intermediet-advance steroid user with my next cyc which is posted I am kicking up the dose of test to 1000mg with assorted esters and 50mg everyday for the first 4 weeks and my worry is that I will bloat too much. So I was thinking of including either tren ace for 6 weeks or winstrol depot or eq but not too sure what's best suited for me. I tried tren last cyc but didn't really respond well but my dads type 2 diabetic so Eq has me worried seeing it plays with insulin levels and winstrol I hear is bad on the liver. ,what I want out of it is lean muscle gains with vascular apperence increased, so what's some of your experiences with all three or one so I can gather a grasp on what I should do. Only helpful posts please no trolls! Thanks
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Now this is the advice I was looking for, well I'm going to drop the dosage to 800 cause I have a t 400 blend and drop the dbol and add tbol, how much would u recommend to have ED and I am keen for dry gains more so then wet but I want to be bulky, I weigh 89 now at around 14 %bf and want to be 95 at around 10 when I finish, I have the diet down packed just need to add a cutting agent seeing I'm getting more experienced in stacking, but I'll do what you recommend (looks like I'm selling my dbol to my mate haha) take in Mind I have already bought my test400 and its a amazing blend so if you could pm me and have a look at my cycle post then recommend what I should do I'll change and run it as I'm still a month or 2 away from starting my cyc. Thanks again for helping me out.
AnonYou do not need a gram of test plus extras. You need better nutrition, you need to study up on your 3 energy systems and put some mass on the proper way, there is no reason with your body composition that you need that much gear. Using terms like " blow up" makes me cringe, you wanna blow up eat more, start getting 5000 calories in a day, be realistic bro...... a gram of test plus extras and orals? Can I please ask you why??? Why do you have to " blow up" are you in a hurry? Competing? A gram of test does not cover poor training or diet bro. Cmon! Be real.
I'm eating 6 meals a day and mainly chicken and rice or tuna and rice or salmon and rice, I train hard 7 days a week and only say "blow up" cause I want to be 15 kgs heavier. I was saying in previous I think I wil drop to 800 mg of test a week and add eq. Thanks for the advice
AnonAdd good fats to your diet. Its about metabolism, chicken rice and fish is good, but if you wanna gain 15kgs gear aint gonna do it, you need to switch up diet a bit, add some red meat in your diet, nice steaks etc, train 4 days a week and have a few rest days, heavy reps, with 2 minute rest between sets, run some good quality sustanon, @ 750 week by it self 250mgs 3 times a week, thats more than eniugh gear, you will not gain anywhere near 15 kgs from any cycle, it will be a process and could take a while, good luck
You need rest time too, especially when bulking. If you want to add 15kgs you need to drop the training time down.
Great stuff. +2
Masteron will enhance an already lean body and add vascularoty and its non oral. Winny is even better but I know you said no winny. If your looking for lean gains, keep the test low, tren higher, mast moderate. You could switch up the tren for 1-test and still look pretty lean also. I dont know how those compounds will effect your future insulin/diabites family history though so keep an out.
Will masteron hurt my hormones ??cause it's now out of that or winstrol depot
All androgens will affect your hormones. You mean your natural test and shit or insulin?
Your goal and cycle base are contradictory.
You want lean gains and are worried about bloating, so your solution is 1g of test and 50mg of Dbol?
What do you add? You don't, you rebuild the cycle with something that fits your goals.
Oh really restructure cycle... So that's not what I'm attempting to do now is it ??? But instead u state the obvious and try to be a troll... Fckwit
You just disrespected one of the most helpful , and respectful members on the board . You have no right , running aas , you dont have the temperment for it , nor the knowledge , im not even gonna waste any more of my time , here I dont do this , often or at all -1 for stright ignorance , disrespect , diet depicts goal not aas
I apologised I've had a stressful last few weeks going to loose half of everything cause missus have left but no excuse and I lost my reg user status because of it so again I want to apologise I mean no disrespect just thought he would have said try this instead of telling me I was way off and making me feel a bit stupid but I read it again then now I'm calm and feel like a dickhead. I'm a commited part time asthetics enthusiast and value any good advice so hopefully you can accept my apology and still give me some of your knoledge
It is good that you apologized. I don't even know what to do with you young guys that come in here looking for cosigners and then throw a fit and hurl insults when you don't get it.
It's a generation that people are always taking the piss and i have had some stress and cracked as all men do lol
TAkes a man to step up and admitt a wrong I respect that +1 my friend , I use to be you along time ago lol , part of this , is controll the compound. like I said my respect
Cheers heaps lads I'm new to this part of the bodybuilding aesthetics game thanks for the lienience
So you respond maturely with the post below at first, then revisit 12 hours later and post a load of abuse, name calling etc. Different personality? Change of heart? Drunk? What you posted doesn't fit your goals, which is what I pointed out to you, with a view to helping you build a different cycle IF you wanted. If I'm stating the obvious, which is the one thing we agree on, then I don't understand why you'd suggest running it in the first place? You respond with comments like "I need a shit load of test" so I don't think I can help you as my approach is very different to yours. Doesn't really warrant Comments like "fckwit" does it?
I didn't mean any disrespect, I just broke up with my missus today and have been stressed I only thought u were trying to have s stab because you didn't recconmend anything inpiticular in your post and I felt like you came off like you were talking down to me, I say take more test because I've found after getting lab tests back after extended cycles that my body Dosent convert to estrogen as quick so I respond well to high test but will cut to 800 a week to add something else. Again no disrespect and hope you can help me out still as I value good advice
There's no stab at you fella, I'm not that way inclined, anyone here will tell you that.
Apology accepted. I'll let the guys help and see what they come up with, if you need my help you can pm me ok?
Yes but I want to blow up still just keep as lean as possible seeing I stick to chicken rice and salad everyday switching inbetween pasta and slamon and tuna and rice so need a shit load of test n dbol but I see the pros add all three with anavar and they get massive lean gains but health risks are too high so seeing which one of the three is best to add on its own to my existing cyc
dis regard my last post, mis read, thought you where going to take 1g test and 50mg dbol, someone else posted that not you, my bad
if you insist on taking those compound but wish to remain lean then i would suggest ensuring you run a good AI on cycle, like aromasin. dosage is individual dependent but probably wana start at 12.5mg aromasin everyday and see how you go
I'm out, good luck with the cycle.
Lol smart move, sometime you just have to chalk it up to a loss and cut ties.