posted Fri, 05/16/2014 - 13:58
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i kno alot of people add either anavar or winny, lets say the last 4 weeks of cycle, to get rid of water weight for the hardening effect it has. what about mast prop the last 4 weeks of test cycle? would the results achieved be worth running it for that short amount of time? anyone who has experience in doing so i'd like to hear it, thanks
im currently running test e 600mg/wk, anavar 75mg ed n adex .5mg eod. would adding mast prop last 4 weeks add any benefit, or should i save it for another time? i'm not trying to add a whole lot of mass, just cutting up a bit more for the summer
age 27
weight 195
height 5' 8"
bf not exactly sure i have six pack tho
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we have a simple and effective way to teach on this board and its one new compound per cycle. Var and Mast would be 2
Hitman187i agree, that makes sense. i kinda knew i was getting ahead of myself a bit, i guess i just needed to hear it from others. i will not be adding the mast to my current cycle, instead ill be planning ahead to use it the next time around.
RustyhookerShoulda posted sooner. The var 8-14 is magic. Not beginning cycle. Agree with guys below. Too much for second cycle. After your pct completes PRE post to customize
Second cycle, how are you with pinning? Mast p is an ed pin at best eod, thats a lot of beating up virgin muscle with site rotation. BUT it will make your muscles rock hard and give a nice shape to them if the BF is low enough. If you do run it make sure to keep the water intake really high, and run some joint supps. take in enough olive oil. It will dry you right out.Good luck
hey bro, i can help you with this, just need stats and cycle history, and what the cycle is your asking about is, cheers.
Hitman187i posted current cycle up top. this is my second cycle. first was just test e 500mg/wk for 12 weeks. i'm not dead set on running the mast, just wana get some opinions/ideas
with it being 2nd cycle, mast p taper is fairly advanced, alot of pinning, but to answer your question yes it does work and i do it at the end of my drol and deca bulks, hardens and conditions the muscles, regulates estro a bit, good vascularity and i drop water and add a bit of lbm.
i agree, its great for this, and for the newb it can be a bit much, i pin mast prop daily when i use it. brings those veins right out and the water right off, but it can give me sore joints if i run it to high to long. but it gives the muscles a different harder look. its especially nice as a deca finisher, gets rid of the deca moon face, and the water comes right off.
Right not bro, I'm running both mast and winny, and it's killing my joints this time around. I never ran them together, so it wasn't a problem now I'm kicking myself in the ass LOL
Hence why I said to drop out the Winny baxk when you posted your cycle. Painful joints is the least of your worries with the stack your on. Going bald and pissing blood are a lot worse
why would he piss blood? hes on heavy liver support, kidney support, saw palmetto for prostate, vitamins and a good healthy diet with bcaas and a heap of water..... ?
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l glutamine, krill oil supps, eat oily fish, tuna in good olive oil, if your doing shakes add in a couple of shotties of olive oil, you running the driest stack possible bro, its to be expected.
Awesome dude, I just grab a whole bunch of bcaa's. I don't drink plain water, all day long bcaa's or protein shakes dude... I just doubled my fish oil and glutamine dosages yesterday, elbows are popping.
I agree you flash, not only is it a lot of pinning, he has to have some test-p, so he'll need to mix up two shots in one pin. It's a good concept bro, but why through in the mast-p when he is already running var, just up the var to 100mg ed for the last two weeks...
Hitman187yea maybe thats what ill do, i got more than enough of it. i didn't kno i would need to switch over to test p. did you mean for a taper tho. i thought i could run the mast prop alongside my test e, and i could mix esters it would just be more of a pain with the pinning timing and all. if thats whats envolved ill just stick to the compounds i have now, and run the mast another time, prolly a bit much for my second time around anyways
You could run mast with test-e, but mast-p is more efficient with more frequent shots, I always thought it was harsh to stop cold turkey let the test clear out and pct, it was always depressed when I did that, so I always taper. Then again dude, you're mixing up two pins, have you done that before? If you contaminate one thing you contaminate it ALL. Plus if you don't know what your doing it can be really tricky and you're going to waste time trying to get things right and thats more time for the needle to pick up airborne pathogens. In the end it your call, but we would very much implore you take the safest option, and that would be the oral.
It's all good but I also think a Mast finish is a bit much for a second cycle. I think we are all turning into a bunch of gear heads pun intended.
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To be honest bro I think since he's really worried about the water weight, the var at 100 mg for the last two weeks will dry him out. If he was running an AI he shouldn't be holding too much water at 600mgs.
Why has 100mg var become the "norm" thesedays for everybody?
IMO bro there's this concept floating around that var is a "mild" steroid, so it's become more acceptable to not take it as seriously as other orals. I've read post where people were using it as a bridge between cycle and during the last few weeks of pct.... SMH.... IMO it's only slowing down the recovery process. I take them each all seriously and I use the proper liver protection and very much suggest it. I notice with my body when I run var at 100 mgs, it mimics the effects of masteron to an extent; while maintaining and increasing it features. The reason I suggest it for the last two weeks, is to really squeeze that water out like a sponge, while maintain strength under a caloric restrictions. I only recommend it if the person doesn't like frequent injections or using a wide array of compounds... I would consider 65-75 mg normal.