posted Tue, 04/29/2014 - 05:07
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Which ester of this compound do you prefer and why? What do you think the benefit is of running one over the other, besides clearance time in case of any issues.
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300 SavageMasteron is my fave..check this..
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/masteron-for-...
I absolutely LOVE them both! It comes down to preference,,fast acting vs long acting. Do you want to inject EOD or 2x per week? For me the end results are both very similar and you cant go wrong with either.
300 SavageAgree.both feel the same to me also..as long as its top notch masteron..
Testrogen_PropC...I know this is an old ass thread but I prefer mast prop. Not because of the clearance time but because I don't want to wait weeks for a drug to peak it's blood levels on an 8 week blast, and I'm personally not a fan of frontloading.
i dont like to pin very frequently so i choose the enanthate ester. You're also gonna get a bit more stable levels with enanthate. Also, the enanthate can be 200 or even 250 mg/ml, whereas propionate is usually only 100mg/ml, so that means you are shooting more oil.
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Handsumhustlaa23Well if im doing a long ester cycle il stick to the mast e since long and if im doing a prop cycle il run the mast prop
I choose Mast Enanthate if I am already pinning another short ester. But also remember that long ester steroids mean less free hormone. 200mg of a prop ester is actually 160mg, while 200mg of a enanthate ester will only release 140mg.
The only compounds that will release the full measured amount are the ones without an ester attached, such as TNE (test no-ester). Just something to think about.
Enanthate for sure because Mast shines around 600mg + per week if you are already lean and E can be made in 200mg/ml while Prop is generally 100mg/ml so it just makes injections a whole lot easier and less frequent in my opinion
i also like simplier but to admit i am running tren ace pinning ED, then a bit of mast p to kick this mast e i will pin twice per week.
crackerI just pinned mast e and mast p at same time. I only did it to cutt some high mg gear i had . It was killing my glutes. Both of theese mast being run at the same time in small doses ??? Any thoughts or comments on this . 500mg sus with a lil mast p and a lil mast e , only half of a ml ??
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/masteron-enant...
Less pinning!.... thats all for me, i prefer long esters (unless comp prepping) due to pinning far less oil. BB,BA.. etc etc as longs are typically higher dosed MG/ML than shorts which are typically 100MG/ML...... you follow what i mean bro?
I def get you with less oil, BB, BA.... Whats the benefit of using short ester in contest prep? is it to add certain compounds that act quick to use for the last couple weeks before a show?
less esterification = less water bloat..... and i find short esters work better in a calorie deficient enviroment, for me anyway!
if I my Viking... less ester also means more hormone... esters take up space in the vials too.
AnonI understand what you wrote above but mast in general as a compound wether its eth or prop doesnt carry much bloat to it does it... Of course eth carries more water then prop but does the eth carry that much more water bloat where you actually look bloated??? Like when people run tons of test and get that you huge circle fat face look....
I am talking about esters at a pre-comp stage here bro....... dont get the wrong impression about test prop either, if you use enough of it it will give moon face also lol... TNE which has NO ester is the best bulking compound ever when used correctly and blow you up like a balloon...... use a massive amount of mast either P or E and that also will bulk you............. EVERY compound is diet (cal/macro) dependant!.. misconception is a lot of beginners think longs are for bulking and shorts are for cutting... WRONG! you can do both with either but its ALL about the nutrition and specific training to goal (bulk or cut + high rep/low rep etc)..... when it gets to comp stage we want to be drying out so shorts become ideal being only short half-life compounds so they are in and out fast, fat will be very low at this stage so by having minimal adipose tissue we naturally cannot hold as much water subQ and thats what shows striations and veins off far better.
Thats what my calorie deficient comment meant :))
This was dope advice and knowledge right here. 100% +1
Thank you very much bro
Viking, when you are getting into your contest prep stage, do you go all high rep? High sets too? Does it depend what muscle group your working ?
Sets in the 5/6 range but reps go up to 20..... more isolation movements than normal, very little compound stuff and thats when i actually start to hit abs directly
AnonThank you so much for answering my questions and concerns i have.. i really cannot thank you enough.. The detailing and way to you use examples when you respond makes it so easy to understand and be able to grasp the concept of the information to where i actually learn for you and can also reiterate the information i learned from you and be able to explain it to someone else. NOW THAT IS WHAT A EXCELLENT TEACHER REALLY IS...
thank you sir
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkThank you very much brother :))
yep I agree. I always have the same issue with esters
RustyhookerMatch Esters. Whats your cycle?
Out of interest why do you recommend matching the esters? I see you recommending that a lot.
RustyhookerMatching Esters is typical. Here's why in this particular case. The op is running only shorts. Enanthate would start to kick at week 4ish. Cycles half over. Then he'd have 2 Weeks til pct with whichever hormone lingering. If in this case its masteron,, it would ramp up week 4, stop at week 6 to pct week 8, just 2days later when shorts are ceased. Too lil time to get the full effects.
However, if you're using long estered base of test then there's many ways to mix/match Esters because length of cycle. Ex- test/eq cycle. Short prop as kicker and a short ester finish. Simply because plenty of time.
Advanced cycles. Still can keep it simple. Maybe prop to help early test levels raise quickly. Switch shorts for wet bulk. Switch tail end for water drop. Using shorts to quickly change results. And still keeping total mgs low so cycle isn't a monster.
The longer esters was more of what I was directing my question too but you hit that nail in the 2nd paragraph. I completely agree with the short esters also, that's pretty much common sense (which is a rarity nowadays it seems). Thanks mate!
RustyhookerAnytime! If newbs didn't copy/paste it would be fun throwing ideas/theories..
Text book .............. perfect bro +3
took a short break and jumped back on, Running short esters test, tren , but had 2 different sources mix up my masteron order and send me enanthate instead of mast prop so was trying to decide if i should go with the enanthate or prop since i am restarting my cycle
RustyhookerMast prop in there you'll enjoy!