posted Wed, 02/19/2014 - 18:54
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young buck wondering about TRT
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I just wanted to gather a little piece of information. Information as in information... not something I'm going to apply for myself at my age so please don't flame me. If one was to choose to get on TRT (just low dose test) I'm guessing there really is no turning back because after awhile on it, it will shut down production of natural test, correct? Saying this, if someone makes the dive to TRT does it actually sterilize you to the point of not having kids in the future?
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Alls I can say is I had 4 more kids AFTER years of use-
When I say years/ I mean my first 2 cycles in 1996 were 6-10 weeks with no pct
Then the following year larger cycles up to 1500 Mg per wk or more with pct
Made babies throughout -
And I'm positive they are mine cuz they look just like me- lol
I understand the question was trt but I clearly used for extended period of time , variety of compounds and have 4 children AFTER first time
Really?! You can try and color it anyway you want but you are fishing! I've already let you know where we stand so if you are trying to push my hand you are succeeding... You wan to fuck yourself up you can do without the help of eroids!
IdontliftFishing for an answer yes. This is not a "my friend wants to run X, X, and X. Advice please?" Post. This was seriously an information only post. Hllwd, I have absolutely no reason to get on TRT at the age of 22 and I did explain why I even asked this question in a post below. I am not trying to push your hand at all. I understand why y'all are worried but there is no need to.
I would think it would take a year or two to become completely sterile. But Ronnie just had a kid and you know he was juiced for along time so I'm sure everyone different
Ronnie used? Really ???
Always thought he was natty!
That's a real blow!
Funny guy
Well it came from a reliable source close to the Ronnie camp-
Lol
IdontliftThat is good information about Ronnie lol. Never thought of it like that.
IdontliftThanks for nothing guys. Like I did it wasn't for me to preform on myself and there is absolutely no reason for me to get on TRT. Just a curious question that I didn't know and I'm always trying to learn. People on this site act like knowledge is poison. We teach our kids about drugs and how they are bad and gun safety. Why can't I ask a question regarding steroids that is over my head (like TRT or 19 nor esters) just to freaking LEARN something without getting flamed. It's freaking ridiculous.
Darron614Everyone is so uptight these days I don't even care to post anything on here anymore; I'll just lurk. I understand that everyone wants to keep people safe and stop 20 year olds from running Tren. It just seems like you can't ask any kind of question without getting flamed.
I love to learn about new compounds and stuff, but that doesn't mean I'm going to hop on slin and tren tomorrow. I just want the knowledge! I'm sure this is the same for you bro.
IdontliftExactly the same for me. Thank you for agreeing. The only reason that these responses really bothered me is because I outlined in my post that it was a information only post and not something I'm going to do.
aylmejorYurrpppp.
Look bro, you've gotta understand where we are coming from when we reply like we do. I read your post, looked at your stats and saw that you are a 22 year old kids. I looked at your gear pics and I see trenbolone in the pics, I see TNE, I see shit that a 22 year old shouldn't even be considering. This tells me that so far you aren't being smart with the information that you have been given already.
I don't give you shit to be a jackass, I give you shot because I see that you are already on a destructive path.
You reference kids and drugs. Yeah, I teach my kids about drugs but I'm sure as hell not going to show him how to freebase heroin, especially if he's showing signs of abuse. Does that make sense?
We are just trying to help you out because brother the fact if the matter is this..yes steroid use especially in a full time trt scenario does have a high likelihood of making a man infertile. Sure some can and do have kids on trt cycles but I know a shit ton of bros who can't have kids because they ran hard like you are doing at 22.
Hope you understand. Be smart about shit brother. You are too young to make such permanent decisions. Hell I'm nearly 37 and I'm too damn young to make such permanent decisions.
IdontliftThank you for the reply and the information I was looking for. As for the Tren, that isn't something I am going to use for awhile. As for more simple cycles, yes I do run them. A little about me to maybe understand why I am running cycles at an early age. At the age of 16 I was introduced to pro-hormones. What did I think they were at the time? I don't really know. All I know is the information I got from the local meat head shop didn't point to them being any form of "steroid". They talked pretty highly of them actually and even said they were legal for sports. I ran PLENTY of cycles from the age of 16 - 18 and messed up without doing my research on what they actually were. Stupid mistake on my part but a very foolish approach by the store to sell the product to someone so young and even really lie about what it was is crazy. So, that explains why I like gaining information on things. Shit, I even researched DNP when I knew from the start I would never touch it. That also explains why I am running cycles as well. I feel like if I run mild cycles for short periods of time with proper use and PCT and time off that it isn't going to do anymore damage then what those harsh pros did to me at a very young age.
You know why? because we have little fkn kids coming here fishing for answers to these questions ALL THE TIME. So excuse us for protecting our integrity. Do a search on the subject matter; it is no FKN walk in the park to have to be a slave to a godamn needle every week. TRT is for people who have very little to zero of their own test; it is not a ticket to blast and cruise. TRT also requires the same type of blood work and estro checks that you get non cycle. You cannot inject every week and forget about everything else. It sucks plain and simple. I would give one of my fingers to have normal levels and not have to be a slave.
IdontliftLike I said THIS ISN'T FOR ME! I have absolutely no interest or reason to get on TRT. That would be absolutely ridiculous! I was just wondering if it inhibits the ability of having a kid. THAT'S IT! Also, I am not a "little kid". Yes, I am young I understand that. I am a lot more mature than people my age. I am just trying to LEARN like I do with every aspect of my life which could be from my career, to exercise, to diet, or even AAS. Doesn't matter if it is for me now, something I'll never use in my lifetime, or something that is way down the road and could be in my future. One thing older people tell me (probably people your age) is one thing in life that is so important is knowledge and knowledge is KEY. Instead, you turn around and bash people my age for trying to learn about something. It's ridiculous! I'm not going to respond to this thread anymore because I don't want to draw the wrong type of attention. Sorry for trying to further educate myself.
hey brother.
You gotta understand that when a "young buck" such as yourself starts asking TRT questions around here, we as a collective are going to try and sway you from making that kind of decision. I hope you would do the same for a friend of yours who started asking random TRT questions.
In regards to your actual question. Exogenous testosterone in the body inhibits the production of LH and FSH over time. Those two hormones work together for natural reproductive processes to take place like the creation of sperm and such. SO - you may not be sterile right away but over time those hormones will decrease. The longer you are on TRT the less likely it will be that you can have kids. Look at peoples pre-cycle bloodwork and the normal ranges for those hormones and then take a look at some bloodwork on gear (if they aren't already on TRT). They aren't completely shut down but rather greatly decreased. Eventually you will probably be completely shut down and no be able to reproduce. I don't know exactly how long it would take but that's what happens. If anyone wants to add anything or correct me somewhere please do.
I'm 42 with ton of kids so with regards to that, are there certain counts in my bloods that I can actually ignore for greater gains?
Seriously -
Im gonna get bloods each month now /especially when I introduce another product to my system let it be AI, AAS or other
IdontliftI totally do understand that and if I had posted it as if I was asking "I want to get on TRT!! Teach me!!" I would totally understand you getting to sway me from making that choice. My point is that y'all are trying to sway my from doing something that I wasn't planning on doing lol.
Solid answer though and that is exactly what I was looking for and thought. I was just reading an article about someone in there 40s that was suffering from low T and how much it turned around his life. As I was reading comments on the post I saw people commenting there experience and some of them were in there early 30s. That is what sparked this question of mine.
IdontliftI wasn't asking about how to take out, dosing, or anything like that. All I wanted to know is if someone choose that he needs/wants TRT is he forfeiting having kids in the future.
This question sounds like you are going fishing to get someone to say that TRT is no big deal. If you are thinking about TRT and blasting and cruising when you natural levels are fine, that is going to be one of the worst decisions you could make in your life.
Information is out there you just have to press the search icon!...or you could punch yourself in the balls really hard and have a instant experience...lol
Wonder about not being trt...i am trt and im a lot older than you...i wish i could only cycle on and cycle off...needle every week for life blows...
Listen to ED eat right and train like a bastard you dont even need AAS yet ...good luck bro
Young buck should be wondering about diet and exercise . Bro, trt at your age...you might as well cut your balls off. You are too damn young to even run a short basic test cycle . Hell you are too damn young for a high dose of vitamin c.
Come back in about five years and ask about a basic test cycle.
Rofl... high dose of vitamin c!
Let me follow up your question with another question.... How much research have you actually even done on the subject? Not being a dick. I genuinely want to know.
Anyone who puts themselves on TRT at 22 and is not already actively making a career out if bodybuilding is making a big mistake imo.
IdontliftI haven't really done any at this point. I thought I said this wasn't for me to get on? That I just wanted information.....