Bad Pip
I’m on my first cycle running 250mg/week of Testosterone Cypionate in MCT oil, split into two injections of 0.5ml twice a week. I’m on my 9th injection and almost halfway through the vial and the PIP has only barely gotten better. I’ve been using a 27 gauge half inch for delts and 1 inch for glutes. I’ve been warming the oil before injecting, injecting slowly, massaging the site after, using a heating pad, and rotating sites. But every single injection site gets hot, red, and the muscle gets really sore and tight and hurts a lot to the touch. When I pin my glutes i can't even sit for a couple days. My peak pain hits around day 5 after the injection. After about a week the pain, swelling, redness, and heat finally goes away. It’s consistent every single time regardless of injection site or technique. I have gotten good side effects from the test like increased sex drive and increased strength and muscle fullness. What makes me think this is a carrier oil sensitivity is that my friend is running the exact same compound, from the exact same source, at the exact same dose and split, and he has had zero PIP whatsoever. I’m wondering if I have a sensitivity or allergy to MCT oil since nothing seems to be helping. Has anyone experienced this with MCT-based gear and switched to GSO with better results? Is switching carrier oils the move or maybe the source or the ester? Any advice is appreciated.
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I suspect your body fat is high and you are not using a long enough needle to get into the muscle.
On your 9th injection @2x per week, so have been at it for about a month, correct?
If this is your first go at injecting testosterone, unfortunately you may experience PIP (exactly as you described) for several more weeks or months. It tends to get better over time, but that means months, not a-month.
Sounds like you're doing it right: heating the oil and injecting slowly, but are you using the same draw needle to pin? And if not are you clearing the needle you're using to inject (purging) of air prior to injection? That's another thing that can cause PIP - injecting a small amount of air into your muscle.
To your question about possibly being sensitive/allergic to MCT: it's possible, but the symptoms you're describing sound very typical of virgin muscles getting used to oil, and possibly some not quite perfected pinning techniques. You can certainly try a GSO or equivalent alternative carrier oil, but I wouldn't be surprised if you continued to deal with the same issue for a while longer.
Try to hang in there, keep an eye out for actual infection symptoms like pus/fever/abscess. Don't make knee jerk changes unless you really need to.
Good luck.
Same happened to me on my first cycle, and for a few after that as well. Every spot I injected hurt like a bitch. But now I can do quads and still walk.. Suggestion would be to not rub the site, warm up the oil and inject slow. Not going to fix it, but should minimize. Also never a bad idea to shop around.
27 is too small. Only 2 spots? Dose is barely a thought
Roids isn't for everyone I guess.
@Greg under age
This does not sound right.
Who is the gear from?
It’s a review site buddy. We can say that lol
Really?
Looks like he’s reviewing the gear to me! But we don’t know what gear he is reviewing ?
Not trying to pile on ya, but this post just seems like he's asking about pip and how to fix it. Not really reviewing anything.
With all your bullshit and time here, what do you still not understand about the rules? How is anyone supposed to answer a question like that? Someone who might be new and not as familiar with the rules as you. Breaking them because of your dumb question.
That’s a fair point. In the past I’ve seen it done like this:
“I got bunk blig*s from dpn*ts”
Is that unacceptable?
You think a 20 year old eroids newb is going format the answer to your question?
Do you think writing, "I recommend B0b'5 B1gb0y " is any less Spam?
I didn’t catch him being 20. I’m actually disappointed about that
I’ll try to be more mindful in my guidance in the future.
Hope you’re enjoying your morning Greg.
Used to eat at B0b'5 B1gb0y in Barstow on the way to Vegas back in the day.
Good times.
I'm startin' to think you were my meth dealers source.
...back in the day
Hahahaha fuck I wish I was that cool... Not even close. I'm just a typical dum dum.
"were"? or "am"?..hmmmmm