posted Sun, 02/09/2014 - 01:24
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Bulk & Cut in the same cycle
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I'd like to talk about an idea i had about my current cycle (test en 500mg x week)..
I'm going to increase my calories intake till 3200 kcal ( <2000 was my metabolism rate for maintenance ) untill the 10th week when i'll add anavar at 50/75mg per day and maybe albuterol and cut the calories at 1800/2000 kcal per day..
What do you think will happens ? Should i cut fat keeping my gains from the bulk or will i lose mainly muscle doing this ?
Would the albuterol help keeping the gains or it's just a waste ?
I know the best would be 2 diferent cycles, but i have no time/no possibility to run another before than September, and i need to be in great shape for the summer (May/October) for work..
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Clean up on ailse 6............... lol
Hate to pop your bubble there is no such thing as "Bulk and Cut" at the same time .. pick one or the other.. here is what I do. BULK.... BULK.... BULK.... run a CUT cycle.. then repeat
Judd81Did you read corectly ? I don't think so.. I wrote "in the same cycle" not " at the same time...
well we tried
Tell ya what!.. youre a clever little cunt arnt you ... just about every comment on this thread you have kicked back with attitude........... SPLAAAT!.... You just walked face first into my fkn hammer!!
C'mon bro, get your bulk on and then drop the weight through hard work and diet when you go OFF... learn to maintain your gains and then hit up another winter bulk
my .02
I personally judging by your stats wouldn't do a bulk then cut. I feel like you have a decent amount if weight for your height. Focus on recomping instead of bulking then cutting.
If 2000 is your maintenance, then eat closer to 2500. That's enough extra calories to help with increased metabolism from the gear but not enough to put on significant weight. Clean up your diet and gradually add gear so maybe at week 8, you can add the var then maybe add the albuterol if you really need that little extra. Don't try to do too much. Keep it simple
Judd81First of all thanks for your help mate.. Actually my stats now are 185cm 89kg and around 12/13%.. I went down to 87kg 12% with 1600kcal and timed carb diet but not happy (i'd like to go down 10% ) because i had my metabolism crashed down, so i couldn't get that cut naturally avoiding a big muscle loss..
My goal for this cycle would be to be around 95kg and as lean as i can ( less than 10% ) but this is my first cycle so everyone advices to go for a bulk..
Initially i thought for an only test cycle, but i won't be happy if i get bigger but fatter, so lately i was thinking to add a dryer compound as Anavar ( many say it also cut some fat ) at the end and i have some albuterol in hand it could be helpful (not sure anyway)..
I will see how things go, but the doubt is still if to go over 3000kcal and cut under 2000 ending the cycle or to keep calories slightly above maintenance.. ( say 2400/2500 )
k.i.s.s- keep it simple silly- your diet depicts your goals, you don't need albuterol etc, just run your test and tweek diet as desired, also tweek your cardio,, that's all you need, if you want to bulk up your calories and meals while doing less cardio and heavier slow weights, then if you wnt to lean out, up your cardio, put your calories into deficit, and up your reps with lighter weights.
What about some hardcore dieting and hard graft instead of trusting a couple of pills ???... and the self-experience and joy you would get from a real result that YOU have actually created!!
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/wanna-get-ripped-read-this
Judd81I'm here to learn and Always ready for it..
When you write what you wrote it's self evident you don't know me..
I lift since i was 16 in and out, tried many ways to train, got qualification to train, tried metabolic, zone, keto and timed carb diet ( willing to try warrior lately ).. My diet is from meat,fish,green & salad, oats, nuts, evo, fruits, rice cakes, fish oil and whey/casein.. just a pizza/pasta/beer once a week in the week ends, got some not too bad lift too : 210kg deadlift 185kg squat and 30kg dips 6 reps. Started at 62kg of bodyweight and after couple of year i couldn't lift i was still 68 kg 10 years ago..
I can say everything i got i fought for..
Now sitting between 96/84 kg it depends if trying to bulk or cut at 10% and obviously natural..
I think at 33 i can try and talk about anabolics, whitout anyone who doesn't know me treats me as i started working out Yesterday..
About abuterol, i was just asking if it can be helpful ( never used ), i didn't say I HAVE TO..
Thanks for you link, i read it already.. I started my first cycle last week, after years of reading through the web and books read..
My main question actually was about diet and calories, the anavar/albuterol add was just an OPTION to add to get the most from my cycle..
I drop you a good link and you give attitude and a NEG!
Come and play with me for a while, i just had a big meal and i feel really calm (hehehehe)
you beat me to it lol.
i would rather force someone to work harder and jump on a learning curve than prescribe fkn pills anyday bro.
someone negged you lol, was not me !
Judd81Neither do i.. Even if i think we are in a Steroid related forum not an Natural for life one..