posted Fri, 01/03/2014 - 03:46
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3rd week, Pip so bad I cant walk
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Im on my 3rd week of my second cycle of Tbol wk1-4 Test E 250/x2 week of 500mg test E I pined last night and it hurt really bad. And today I can barely walk, I know what normal Pip feels like and this doesn't feel like that, It feels like I have a knot in my leg. Help please
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Again thanks for the help, I pinned my glute and everything is fine and my pip is minimal, I will continue to pin my glute
could be the high test but if it hurt as soon as you punctured the skin im almost gonna bet you hit a nasty nerve -should have pulled out and tried another spot instead of continuing - so yeah your gonnabe swollen and sore from that til the nerve heals - its even happened to me but the second i feel that pain i know its a shallow nerve so i switch to the other leg - by next time round i can back to the old spot and the needle just glides in - it should always be a pretty painless thing . cheers
Little BamBamThis could be due to bad gear. The length of your needle. What your gear uses for oil. You say leg as in quad or glute? If it's quad many have this issue it may be less pip in glute
Update: First of all my Source ran out of the 300 I ordered and sent me this with some extras to compensate. I prefer 300.
The swelling went away and it feels like normal pip now. I decided to try to pin in the same spot and as I started in it felt weird Idk how to describe it tight, hot come to mind. So I didn't inject it I pulled it out and started over in my glute. Not sure what this is from but I am going to try and do glute from here out. Thanks for all the help guys Much appreciated
I'd definitely second the fact it's the 500 mg causing your angst. I don't mind it at all when mixing it with something. But by itself, even just a half ml with give me a pirate hobble. It was said lower down, but diluting it will definitely help. It really isn't intended to run by itself. You can, the gso will help. Some people are more sensitive than others.
Sirk1981Why does everybody want high mg test for test only cycles? I've been hearing a lot of people with pip complaints, all from using test 500 alone. That is a lot of hormone per mg. I would recommend not using such high mg oils unless you are using more than one compound in your pin.
I hear ya man, some Test 300 is just right. 7/8 of a cc twice a week is very low pip.
GearofWarSounds like a gear issue above and beyond regular PIP. If it happens again I'd suggest contacting your Source about his /her solvent ratios. I was having BIG probs with PIP which I NEVER have and my source accidentally used 2.5 BA vs 1.5 BA which was/is the issue with my huge PIP. Just another scenario to consider. Best of luck to you. It's hard to feel good on cycle when you can't move because of PIP. Consequently and luckily for me my source is sending out replacement gear to rectify my situation.
Just and Update, the swelling is going down and I can move my knee almost full range now... I was really worried. My next question is can I pin in the same spot this Thursday or should I do a glute
I would keep that spot out of the rotation for a couple weeks.
Like some of the others said. Dilute 1:1 ratio with grape seed oil. Will be pip free.
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It's saved my ass from pain many times. I always have sterile oil on hand just in case. It makes such a huge difference.
My quad is swollen down into my knee.
was it just this one pin, or have all you pins up till now left you crippled?
If you decide to go to the DR, I understand that "spider bite" is a safe aliment to claim instead of AAS
Thanks for the help, im going to give it a couple more days before I go, and it was just one pin, I think im going to switch to right quad and right glute
The source I got this from is Very reputable, and I am not pinning all 500mg I can taking .5cc of it
sources could brew the gear with aspirin.....it might be happening....
Get you some different gear. If you have had smooth gear in the past go that route. Walking like a pirate sux been there. Quads are worst stick with glutes
Thanks for the replies guys, I pinned my left quad Yesterday around 10pm. after a back workout and basketball. I showered and made sure it was super hot water to loosen the muscle up as well as make the room really hot from steam to warm the Vial. I pined .5 CC of Test E 500 and the whole time it felt different (altought i could have been sikeing myself out) and it almost felt like it was burning. I thought maybe I hit a vein or something but I aspirated and everything was normal so I finished and maybe 20 mins later I was limping. my quad has been a little swollen and I have been messaging it. walking as been difficult. I know its part of the game Im just checking on it because Ive felt pip and This is alot worse and alot concerned because its the 3rd week not the first IDK just seemed weird.
If your pinning 500mg per ml test then no dam wonder you got pip! Dillute it with some grape seed oil. I made the mistake of pinning 1cc of test 500 one time and it felt like I had been beat with a ball bat! I couldn't hardly walk!
order up some new stuff! A cycle isn't long enough to spend half of it limping.
Sometimes I pin and feel nothing after, sometimes I pin and feel PIP, sometimes I pin and feel excessive pip. I've been limping around all week from a quad pin I did last Sunday. It just happens and is something you gotta deal with.
I do a lot of things for it, OTC pain meds, hot baths, heating pad, it's all temporary relief until the injection site heals itself.
A couple things to try going forward if you aren't already... Heat the oil before you pin. Massage the inject site after pinning. Use a heating pad when the site gets sore.
RustyhookerHow are you pinning? Bad rotation etc will eff you up. Post your full pin style
try a little Tylenol and hot bath. If that does not help try Midol. like gearofwar said watch your temp. If it happens on next pin there might be a problem.
Sounds like you need a heavy dose of man the hell up. I had to say it but seriously most of the time it's jus part of the game my friend.
LOL!!!!!
"man the hell up" That sounds like a good name for a lab!LoL
GearofWarI've been getting some hellacious PIP lately. Using doses, and spots I'd never previously had issues with too. I'm talking swollen knees and immobilization like you. Don't freak out, it WILL go away. If it's hot to the touch and you run a temp, seek med help then. My only guess is the concentrations of BA, and BB my sources use. There was one particular lab I've used in the past which pinned even better than my pharm grade Pfizer Cyp though. Pip has a lot to do with proper brewing IMO.
Interesting, I was under the assumption its the concentration of test; the oil absorbs rapidly and leaves behind the "test crystals" so to say and that's what causes extreme pip. The only time I get pip that kills me is when I use higher concentration gear; even with the same amount of carrier. I tried one with higher ba and same carrier; killed me, I tried one with higher eo and the same ba and bb; killed me. From what I found out its due to the test "crashing" in your muscle. I suck it up and limp for a few days with my swollen knee or try to time my arm workout with the swollen delt.
That's what I thought too. running Test E 300 is less painful than running Test E 500
I've pinned my Test E 300 fourteen times now and never had pip so bad that I walked funny, or anything like that.
I saw in a source discussion page that some folks add different amounts of alcohol to their blends, and that a high % of alcohol can be painful.
its just a lot of hormone in 1ml. I bought a bunch of high mg gear without thinking. I cut it with lower concentration and it doesnt kill so much.
I started thinking this could be the problem, but it seemed wierd that it would start up on my 3rd week and only be a problem in my left quad
It hurt while pinning or after pinning?