+ 2 The cost of being BIG.
I recently just lost some weight. My body likes to be lean, the second I drop the juice I loose size. It's good and bad.
The GOOD -
My blood pressure went from 190/92 to 138/65 without medication. I am taking tumeric and apple cider vinegar every day and I know that helps. My resting heart rate went from 80 to 60. My cardio is so vastly improved I can't even gauge it - I couldn't even do 100 burpees 6 weeks ago. I'm not snoring anymore. And I'm not constantly out of breath. Finally my ego is much healthier for some odd reason this has been pointed out by many people.
The BAD -
I'm fucking smaller :(.
Why do we do this? Lots of people can carry size and they seem to do well. But when I'm 220 that is about 70 lbs heavier than my bodies natural untrained size. Everyone is telling me how much healthier I look these days and I get much more attention from the ladies. Even my wife seems interested these days. So why do we do it? I know not everyone is a bodybuilder and lots of people are just trying to get healthy. But those of you who know what I'm taking about - why the need for size?
Having said all of this I'm still planning my next bulk cycle for three months down the road. :). But I'm sitting here wondering why.
Any thoughts?
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The cost of being small is pretty high too. A few years ago I was down to 145lbs. and people treat you differently, that's for sure. In a management position, I noticed coworkers trying to talk down to me and having fat out of shape fucks giving subtle threats,
One time I had to go deal with some 18 year old chump picking on my 12 year old son and his buddies, it sucked trying to be in the role of protector while being scrawny and wondering if you can back your talk up with action.
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that people treat me much differently now that I've added some mass. People seek my approval and try to be all buddy buddy with me, and those same people 3 years ago treated me like crap.
Having some muscle mass has changed the way people see me, as well as changed my self image. It has been a huge improvement in my quality of life.
BigBmajI have noticed that as well. I've been 135 and 235 and the difference is so obvious.
It's a funny thing when I sit here mentioning the cost of being small. It looks pathetic and needy in some way, as if I seek validation above all else. And that is quite possible, but I doubt it's a rare thing here. I wonder how many people here could just a comfortably walk around 50 lbs lighter? Especially if they were just newly single for the first time in their lives and feeling out of sorts.
Seems so few people even know why they do the things they do. So many of us are able to lie to ourselves so convincingly.
Thanks for posting.
I stick to the plan. I want to be as healthy as possible and still look amazing in the bedroom. I carry 230 very well for an old dude. My only goal is to be a trophy husband. She likes to show me off and give those women that look that says that's right he's my man. I'm a bit of an introvert so going shirtless or showing too much just makes me uncomfortable. On that same note though I think for the wife that that's part of the appeal. Even when I dress in layers though you can tell my 230 @ 11% bf is a hell of a lot different then 230 @ 20+% bf. So there is the need for size. The size that you can cover up but you can't hide it!
aylmejorIt's fun!! seriously the most entertaining thing ive done and probably ever will. nothing more satisfying than changing your body and making it look the way you want.
Its personal I myself layer up so people have no clue to my size yes they see that I have size but Ive never showed my muscle in the gym. You know I like being able to man the weight sorta speak, however Im 225 and 6'3 coming from 185 which took 2 years of hard work. As a guy its a mental thing I think, yes theres nothing wrong with 185 but when you get a taste of 225 and that strength in your hands plus the results thats where I find the most joy personally and looking back at the 185 man your clothes fit loose yeah you have abs but having a bit more output becomes a staple
For me, it's always been about ego. I love the attention and the look of out and out fear that you get from a lot of guys in everyday situations. I'm the kinda guy that will put a piece of paper under a cricket that made its way into the house and let it outside without squashing it like a bug. But I love the bad ass image I project to strangers. I also love the attention in the gym in throwing weights around that make guys run off in other directions. It makes me laugh. And then u also get a lot of respect from folk as well - it's plain intimidating. I don't want to change. I'm beyond redemption. I still have visions of getting even bigger. It's never enough.
I feel like many people often forget trying to be a bodybuilder, and trying to be healthy are two completely different things.
If you look at a couple of the old timers who were big competitors.. many of them have had heart problems.
Nearly all of them will tell you that they would do it all again if they had the chance without changing a thing.
Most of the large people you see walking around could care less if they are healthy.
The two larges guys i know(275+ with around 7% bf year round) I call mega dosers.
They run higher doses then most people on here would dream of running.
One of them personally told me that on my bulk i should run minimum 3G of test. This fellow is 45 years old and has been geared up for.. 20+years.
GRANTED, this doesn't mean people should do downright stupid things.
I'm not gonna run 2g of tren a week because i don't care if im healthy..
That would just be stupidity, in my opinion.
But like winning said, most people realize completely that they are probably knocking a few years off their lives.
In my opinion, quality of life > length of life in the end.
Its all revolves around insecurity, we seen pics since we were kids and imbedded in our brains, that this is how we are supposed to look as humans. Quite frankly its an addiction just like any drug. Once I do gain size, I realize it becomes harder to carry, at such a small stature( im 5,6), breathing even becomes harder! Dunno, maybe im Napoleon, but psychology I feel better about myself and thats all that matters. It may take a couple years off my life and I might regret it once I get older, but I live for the now, because tomorrow isnt promised today. We are blessed with so much, yet we always yearn for more.
ClassyChassisAt one point I think I was just in awe at being larger than life, like I should have my own action figure by now. Now I'm more about efficiency and I've already gotten so much attention in my life that it means nothing to me. I can pull the girls regardless of my size anyway, if that's what I want.
I'm so not interested in shoveling food all day and doing massive amounts of gear, just so I can lug around a bunch of useless weight. But at one point I was totally into it. You know, you read comic books when you're a kid and then you grow up and discover that you can actually be this huge, musclebound super-hero in real life. Ha.
I feel my best at about 185 or so but I'm still chasing my 200 lb dream. I've got to 198 or so and I was achey and would wake up somedays just hurting. I'm around 192 right now and feel pretty good.
I believe is just a mental problem we are carrying(specially us Hectos) that if we are "small" we are "weak" I tempt to imagine i wanna be freaky big, but when i go to the gym and i see those big, puffy 30% body fat dudes i start to tell myself i am "Dude you are just fine the way you are"
After all, the reason why i am in this game is not to look like Phil Heat(no way in this world) bu to look like father of aesthetics Frank Zane
I do it for a couple reasons. First, for my height I'm not that big; 6'2", 235 lb. But the main reason I like to be big and get bigger is I like the way I look when I'm bigger. I was a skinny teenager--the elbow joint was the biggest part of my arm, then fat through my 30's, 40's and halfway through my 50's. Now, just before its to late, I am turning my body into what I always wanted it to be.
The second reason is I live in a big city in California that is full of punks and wanna be gang members who select victims who look old and weak. That aint goona be me.
X2 bro! +1 for that attitude!
+1 good topic
ectomorph crew checking in hahahahah
i cant explain why i never thought about it i want to be bigger that all i know . i keep pushing myself wondering how big can i get i slowed down to recomp to keep my body fat low but i will go back to this sick twisted man i want to become my wife tells me iam too big . then i tell my self i can get bigger the thought it keeps coming back. what is this monster inside of me that wants to come out is it possible to eat that much food to get to 280 and what the reason iam not going to step on stage but i keep wanting that size why people over weight in the gym look at the scale and smile when they loose weight i frown when the weight drops i want more can i get more yes i can and i will sorry for my rant but i like this topic people tell me all the time being big is nasty i dont give a fuck what you think is nasty iam doing this for me i have a wife and children i could care less if another women like the size i dont do for the ladys i do it so when iam in line at chipotle you cant see the dam menu peace
BigBmajThat's funny I almost mentioned chipotle. I can eat three of those chicken burritos with everything on them. I can eat two immediately and one within another 90 minutes if I take an enzyme. No one I know can eat like that.
I easily get obsessed with size and my wife tells me I'm too big as well. But I just keep going and the bigger I get the bigger I want to get. But I'm going for 50 lbs lighter than you bro.
man when we go i get two bowls one for then one for later yea this is what we do i hope you reach your goal man . i never really jsut went all out and bulk cuz i gain fat easily so i do it slow but iam up to 265 so i keep going
It depends on your body type, metabolism, and DNA. If you're an ectomorph, you have a naturally high metabolism and tend to lose weight easily. I'm this way. I have to force myself to eat sometimes. Ultimately, it's about your caloric intake in regard to your metabolism. It sounds simple when expressed scientifically: calories in/calories out. Meaning how many calories you take in vs. how many you burn, and at what rate you burn them. There are many variables involved despite the seemingly simplistic nature of this formula. Your hormone levels are just one of the variables that play into the end result. Over riding all of this is your body's struggle to maintain homeostasis. And this is highly correlated to your DNA.
BigBmajI'm an ectomorph to the max. I have to fight for every pound I gain. And it's obvious my body, especially heart doesn't like to be heavy at all. I can gain better than lots of ectomorphs I know because I'm so dedicated and driven, but it falls off the second I give it the chance.
Same here brother. I could lose 10 lbs in a few days, yet it can take me 10 weeks, a good cycle and a lot of food and dedication to my workouts to gain 10. On the upside, we stay lean and ripped!
BigBmajOh yeah I'm not complaining, or trying to. I love having abs and being able to eat anything I want. But it's frustrating when you see those hard earned lbs just fall off.
I sometimes wonder why the hell I try so hard to be big when it's so obvious my body wants to be lean.
the reason why you look better is because im assuming when you go on cycle you go all out bulking. basically you look like a fat mother fucker with size and holding some water.
BigBmajNo I was able to stay below 10% the whole time. I'm super lean even when bulking. Take a look at my bulking picture that's about as fat as I can get, these days at least.
My face is leaner now, and I just plain look healthier. Everyone says I just look more natural and balanced now.
me and you might be the same i stay pretty lean on cycle too.
190? was that constant on cycle?
BigBmajOops thumbed ya on that one. Not a bro bump. Ummmm no I had to take 2 medicines and I got it to 170/80.
thats pretty fucking high i got scared of 170 on tren before so i gave it all up
3PUMPCHUMPSo I can be the big fucker that can kick everyones ass duh