posted Tue, 09/03/2013 - 18:32
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why are we going to war with syria
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Anyone can give me a good reason other then that they have chemical weapons. Let's face it Iraq used chemical weapons on Iran in the 80s.. And we didn't do shit
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Lol... Whatever you gotta tell yourself to sleep better tonight
This is no shit, but it's against the liberal code to take into account demographics so don't even go there.
AnonFacts is like kryptonite to a conservative , dont go there boy wonder.
Pull them out brother, I am waiting? Where are they? I haven't seen you post a single fact the entire argument. Did you ever get the Hammers per household number yet?
Actually, I'm kind of tired of our Gun control arguments. I win every time. You know this. I don't know why you like to play a game that you can't win. I'll continue to play if you want, but just know that I'm getting bored.
I'd personally would like to take it back to your defense of Obama. I get a kick out of that argument.
Please argue his case on Syria, and how awesome he has been for the economy. That would be a great place to start posting your facts and figures. Please though include facts. Kryptonite actually gives me erections.
I'm ok if you want to talk about Benghazi, the IRS, or anything like that. That shit would be quite stimulating as well.
AnonDip shit then dont start what you cant finish. You run your mouth and spit the same nonsense like a boken record. And speaking of records who started the gun argument her ?
Facts you say I didnt cite any ? What the fuck is the FACT that Louisiana has the highest gun crime rate in the US ? What is that ? Oh right because that doesnt support your side its not a fact, yeah now I remember. Good old brilliant Ed delusional at best
Novi bro what the hell? Why you gotta resort to name calling and belittling brother Ed? Delusional dip shit?? Not cool bro!!
Just say no to cyber bullying
Typical liberal argument. You don't have any facts so you resort to calling me names like Dip Shit and dillusional.
Bro, your Louisiana "facts" are pointless. You totally negate demographics. Lets look at a gun loving state like Wyoming. Better yet Cheyenne or Casper. How many gun deaths per year per capita? Compare the demographics. You don't have shit, you are smart enough to know that, so in the interest of trying to gain ground in the argument you resort to flinging insults at a man who regards you as a close friend. Nice work.
My bad homie. There I go being racist again..
It's cool bro. Send your apology to Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and all will be forgiven.
I don't know what the hammer to gun ratio is. I know that I have over 40 guns and only 3 hammers.
How many guns vs. hammers do you have. Pretty close isn't it.
School me on the numbers brother. I'd be interested to know.
From what I'm reading there are over 300 million guns in the us and rises by about 10 million per year.
According to the census there are around 114761359 households in the us. That's an average of 2.6 guns per household.
I bet your hammers can't keep up with that.
I'll let you pull the numbers on the tools, since you seem to feel comfortable supporting tools.
As far as the states go and the numbers go ahead and give me the numbers for Atlanta and New Orleans. Then also get me the numbers for Chicago, DC, and New York. If you want to argue specific numbers you have to find them. I'm not going to do your research for you.
AnonAh ED I know yer smart and all, but Atlanta and New Orleans arent states .
Shit. No wonder I failed geography. Sonofabitch! Sorry give me the numbers on the cities. And then cross reference the ration with their respective States. I'm trying to get to demographics without hurting your feelings.
I've also have more guns than hammers
AnonAh thats just because the two of you are big enough tools as it is lololololol
Im running at 4 guns to about 12 hammers . And I'll take Hammer sales in the US anyday over guns, besides that statistic of ED is as bogus as the rest, it said hammers and clubs, so now we dont even knoe how many hammers vs clubs.
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Lol. Surely everyone is a mechanic and owns 12 hammers. Lol.
So where exactly does one purchase a club? Is there like a caveman club store? Or would a large wrench fall under that category? Do they sell clubs that are manufactured with the intent of killing people? That is what we are talking about isn't it? Or did you forget your original argument?
AnonWell since auto mechanics are our closest link to neanderthals then I guess the big wrench over my shoulder and my sabertooth loin cloth are appropriate.
bro if obama had any integrity he would actually stand for all of that stuff keeps talking about in his speechs, yea i get it, its not up to him.. but he is doing nothing to fight the situation , he is a puppet when he should be a president..so when he comes around and says im going to close Guantanamo Bay , has any of that shit happened. what if Obama made a speech about how were not going to fight syria? but he made his choice, he could of made a different choice
Obama has no integrity. He is the master of passing bucks and as long as the media continues to fellate that prick, hell never be accountable for anything.
I find it laughable how he won't even own up to drawing the "red line".He's just a big pussy. Plain and simple.
AnonAnd what my good man is a President ? I will agree with you, I had high hopes when he got elected, I thought "ok if theres a chance of changing anything its with this guy, he seems like a real outsider" , but the sad thing is I met the new boss and he is the same as the old boss .
What you are suggesting is unfortunately naive optomism , and I hate to shatter that on you, but it is quite possible you may never witness this integrity you speak of, or see a President that meets your standards.
It is sad that the great liberal hope has instead turned into Bush's third term. I only hope at some point the American people wake up and realize this "two-party"system is irrecoverably broken.
JFK?
Mike1982No way. I defended JFK for years then did my research. He might not have been AS bad but he still isn't anywhere near what you think he was trust me.
AnonI dont know, Im not that old you know, just like you I only have the history books and they get written by the winners to tell their version of the story. I mean just look at the dellusion that exists about Saint Reagan and thats only 30 years ago.
After enough time I believe George Bush will be portrayed as a hero and so will Obama . The only difference is you will have lived through the truth, but still your memory may become swayed if enough books tell you they were great.
And unfortunately even if JFK did fit your idea , that sadly was a long time and many elections ago.
Mike1982That's why you gotta do all the research you can from both sides then siphon thru the bullshit and draw a conclusion. Research is the most important thing especially when we havent lived thru it. And if people only knew about JFK lol. Every single president has their dirt, and a good amount of it.
Your only sifting thru the dirt you are allowed to see, lol
Look at that sexy mind!!!!! No homo !:)
BigBmajIt's almost scary how much I agree with some of you.
Mike1982ED help me out....I'm looking for the +50 on the karma button but I can't seem to find it
You're exactly right...IQ means shit if you're mentality is that of a common thief. Just because they took political science in college and were afforded opportunities others weren't doesn't qualify them to be able to be in a position to make decisions where lives are at stake. If you haven't lived at the bottom side of life how can you ever say you are sympathetic towards poor people. There are always exceptions to rules like this but the majority can't understand or fathom what its like. I'm sick of hearing how great America is because we have a two party system when that is one of the main problems. Each one is doing whatever it can to smear and unseat the other. We need a ten party system because there aren't only two ways of thinking. Why do.you think there's the left and then the far left, there's the right and then the right wing. I damn near lost it when I went to a tea party rally to check it out and to listen first hand on what was being said and I saw a sign that said.."keep your government hands off my Medicare". My head instantly started to hurt in three different places and I realized just how much trouble we were really in. The government and intelligence agencies still have the majority of America exactly where they want them.....three steps behind!
actually you guys give Obomber more credit than he deserves he actually failed the bar a time or two and all his scripts are written and he reads off teleprompter and he uses hypnosis....so as far as his I.Q.; certainly leaves a lot to be desired.
p.s. the two party system is the old bait and switch, conquer and divide and it has worked beautifully
Mike1982Lol don't put me on there with the you guys, my beautifully intelligent friend haha I don't like any president because in order to get to that level you had to have fucked over some friends or stabbed a person or two in the back. Respect, like in normal life has to be earned not given. They all have agendas and bush did so did Clinton, Reagan, etc all of them. Bush finished his father's work in Iraq when they had nothing to do with 911. I won't say nothing but there were bigger names on the list especially Pakistan and not once did we go after them. Sure we went into Afghanistan but that's because we had no interests there. Saudi holds our oil and Pakistan (which was where bin laden was) actually poses a decent threat. We tore thru Iraq in 72 hours back in 1991 and they were just an easy target. There's nothing to gain in Afghanistan. No oil, no good natural resources, no diamonds....nothing besides poppy. Bush did everything he could to divert us from where the actual threat was and still couldn't (wouldnt) get bin laden who up to 1991 was in bed with bush Sr. It's a well known fact that bin laden didn't become our enemy until Kuwait asked for his help to get Iraq out then Kuwait turned their backs on him and decided to let daddy bush come in and do the work instead. That's when bin laden "all of a sudden" became our enemy. He wad our "ally" so to speak when we really don't have one we just have countries that either need our money or just don't want to piss us off and get on pur shit list. Enough about the bush dynasty lol. Point being its all a game to these people and in the end its always innocent people who suffer, plain and simple. The industrial complex and everytjing else our government does wad built and funded for off the sweat of American backs. screw the million man march. We need a ten million man march. That would be a parking and logistical nightmare but washingron might begin to get the picture after that. But then marshal law would be sped up a little more than it already is. If yall only knew the weapons our military has now. They make smart bombs obsolete. There are things floating around pur atmosphere that can do things that are unheard of. That's all imma say about that hahaha
political science is an oxymoron , memorizing the consititution not a real science. the math majors should be running the country then we can get some real logical decisions.
BigBmajI think that may be the problem. Math is running the engine.
Mike1982I didn't give merit to the word or the subject it was reference to a study that is almost a prerequisite to be a "politician" these days. It's the name of the course taken therefore I don't have another word for it. I completely agree its an oxymoron in the general sense But technically that's pretty much what it is. It's the study of politics in the form of testable questions. Math majors are one of the reasons the financial system is the way it is. They have learned how to manipulate the financial system to their gain. Just research derivatives and you will see one major reason for the collapse. What we need are people who arent crooked and who are honest, people who aren't thieves and people who actually care about the population and not personal gain. People who value the human life in its rare form and don't lump everyone in one pool who they view as beneath them or essentially stupid and expendable. Memorizing the constitution, you are correct, isn't a real science but its not followed either. The constiution has been tossed aside for decades and is in almost every sense of the word obsolete.
I don't know brother. As one who has taken many many math and Engineering classes I can tell you that most of the mathematical geniuses that I know have such social retardation issues that nothing would ever get accomplished.
You should see some of the stupid un-build-able shit that I've seen submitted by these geniuses. Lol.
I am a math major and I can say that we're pretty practical. Physics majors on the other hand fit your description perfect
Lol.
Ironically bro if we stay to the original Greek terminology for politics it is defined as, "is the practice and theory of influencing other people." So in essence political science is the study of manipulation. Because today people are influenced by manipulation rather then influenced by the truth. I also agree the great thing about math it is either correct or wrong no in between bullshit to sift through.
Mike1982God damn I love ya pank...without all the gay shit of course lol. Greek and Latin is where pretty much all of our terminology comes from. And you're correct about math....look at your hand 2+2 will always equal 4. But numbers in a sense can be manipulated well, let me rephrase the language in which numbers reside can and do get manipulated. Because you're right numbers don't lie, its when someone does the math and siphons thru the words added with the math that we get the truth. Hence derivatives. Once it was found what this actually meant the numbers inside were calculated and found that sub prime mortgages were packaged and sold to companies that bet against the failure of the loans in the first place. So either way they benefitted from the faulty loans and when it became too saturated that's when the bubble burst occured. It couldn't sustain itself and companies made billions if not trillions then were bailed out because they were too big to fail. That's your mathematicians for you. These are the smartest because they knew how to do this and knew there was no way they would be allowed to go down because the lives of the companies are too tied into the financial system that would've collapsed had they been allowed to go under. Stay tuned defense companies and weapons manufacturers are up next. Trust me this one will blow your mind and piss you off lol
most math majors I know are bat shit crazy... I suppose you'd have to be to enjoy something so repetitious
Preach on brother Ed!
Mike1982I want this posted at the top for everyone to see. Before people start with the "there's no way the government had anything to do with 911" crap. Why don't you research the USS Liberty. Our own president ordered our fighter jets to stand down and said "i want that ship at the bottom of the sea" in an attempt to draw the US into the Israeli-Egyptian war. Israel and our own government planned this shit. On June 8th, 1967 the liberty came under attack from Israeli torpedo boats and jet fighters under the guise of being Egyptian and not Israeli. These men fought their asses off with extreme honor and sadly 34 men including marines were killed. Because of their resolve the entire ship didn't go down. President Johnson received orders from the joint chiefs that the ship was under attack and purposely have the stand down orders to the fighters that were ready to be scrambled. This isn't a story its a fact. Recently the crew and even the captain of the liberty could not hold their silence anymore even after the captain was offered promotion and medals for his silence. Our crew didn't know who was attacking them and if it wasn't for a Russian sub that surfaced in the area we would've never known who was attacking us. Israel even paid money to the relatives of the dead and to the survivors alike. You don't do that unless you're guilty of something and $6 million is an insult to the families and to the survivors. This was a planned attack not only by our government but our own president, and an attack on our own military forces at that. This is just a small summary of the story. So if you think for a second this government wouldn't approve or even be behind the attack on 911 and attack and kill civilians, then you are not only sadly mistaken but you are completely blind. I left the military for a reason. I could be retiring in a couple years with full benefits at 37 years old as I entered the military when I was 17 less than a week after graduating high school. I could not stand by any longer and watch what was happening in Iraq and Afghanistan. I still feel like I left my brothers behind but morally I just couldn't do it anymore. I was as patriotic as they come and though I'm still not ashamed of my service I don't look on it as a good thing either. It's just a sad world all the way around and ive thought about reenlisting many many times but I just can't bring myself to do it knowing I can die and have watched the best men die for essentially nothing. I feel for our brothers and sisters out there and I also feel for the innocent Syrians that are about to die. NEVER FORGET THE USS LIBERTY. This ship was supposed to go down and their attackers did everything in their power to make it so. But they didn't succeed and it shows the strength and resolve of the true warriors out there. My heart goes out everyday to the 34 that didn't make it off the ship and damn President Lyndon B. Johnson and the Israeli government. It doesn't get any lower than that!!!
Well the war ships are on the way to Syria another false flag pulled off nicely...
God help us!
'Coz the ILLUMINATI said so!!!
it's an efficient reason to make congress pump money into the military annual budget.
controversial discussion, the way I look at it is the world has a rite to be stable and safe! international laws have been broken, they have used chemical war fare on civilians this is unacceptable!! who will police the police?? someone has to do something about it! and looks like its the americans! I don't want to see the good people in the military get killed or injured, but I believe something has to be done, there is more to it that we don't know the full extent of, half the world has been on the brink of war for decades, they have secret intelligence, its a matter of time, so any excuse will do, the middle east and north korea, the chinese and the Russians, yes I believe it could start world war 3 for sure that's why the brits voted against it! if America bomb Syria Iran will bomb Israel esculating deeper in the middle east, the north korea will probably say fuck it then bomb the south, then china will be involved followed by Russia and japan, Australia will send troops over, and eventually the british will have to join, not looking good!! my opinion bomb the middle east of the map, followed by north korea, make them non existent, I mean turn there entire country to dust.sit back and wait, then if any other uncivalised countries don't follow the rules do the same to them!!!
The one thing I will say is the Middle East as well as every country in the world has people just like me and you living there who want to live a free, peaceful, happy life...they are mothers, fathers, children, teens, 20 year olds that love our culture, etc. we are all 6 degrees of separation, we are ALL part of the collective consciousness, so to say just kill people because of a few others who are extreme is extreme itself....let us not stand by in righteousness because we have plenty of fucked up extremist right here in America, some are you're neighbors and some are our police, and our politicians. You cannot just blanket people all under one umbrella as terrorists because that's the way the media has portrayed them. I have met people from all over the world including, Syrians, Egyptians, Iranians, Iraquis, and some of them are the nicest people. Sadly they are all portrayed as these degenerates that sit around all day dreaming up ways to kills Americans...meanwhile back at the ranch our government was behind the attack of 9/11 and killed over 3000 Americans without a blink of an eye and then went on to exploit it and exploit every damn American.
Mike1982Ally....are you reading my thoughts? Haha