posted Mon, 08/26/2013 - 13:16
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+ 1 Switching esters during a cycle: yes/no?
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Any thoughts on switching Test esters while on a cycle. i.e.: C to E? Also, what about switching from Sust to Test-C or E half way through a cycle. Obviously it would be better to just stay with one, but would anyone see any harm or benefit? Thanks for the comments.
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As long as you plan out the pins correctly, you can switch test esters up no problem.
I've changed 14wk cycles using Test e/c to prop at the end of two cycles now to help shorten the time between pct and next cycle.
Sust can be a little tricky because of the multiple esters, but if you don't mind a spike (which is always better then a drop) in blood levels while you get use to it, then I don't see any issues with switching from or to sust in the beginning or end of a cycle. Although I would NOT recommend switching from a long to short or short to long ester in the MIDDLE of a cycle if you plan to go back to the other cycle again for the end.
Hope this helps.
I've switch from test prop to test enanthate, worked pretty good for me. Started injecting the test e twice a week on top of my my daily low dose prop injects and at about the 3 week mark dropped the prop and the enanthate took over
I started doing some thinking and querried a search engine for some info. Check out this link www.steroid-encyclopedia.com/blog... It gave me some good ideas, although it seems kind of experimentally expensive. In fact, 1000-1500mg every eight days could be a nice addition to any cycle, especially with nandrolone or equipoise, but this seems to "new age" to me. I am from the old school of compunds.
switching from test-c to test-e is no big deal, they are one molecule off being the same you chances are very high you wont be able to tell the difference, ive switched many times and couldnt tell.
switching sust to test-e or c is different but can be done. running a sust cycle is basically throwing your esters up and down unless you are pinning it EOD. there is 2 thought processes with sust, one is old school where its said to pin E3.5days, that the esters being unstable keeps the body guessing. where as new school says pin EOD to keep esters stable in the blood stream. truth is no matter which way you do it there is gonna be results. the same thing would apply going from stable ester levels from test-c/e and then jumping on to a sust cycle, or vise versa. However this is more of an advanced cycle approach and until you have ran them both in cycles and know how to calculate how much and when to pin to make them "mingle" correctly then I dont advise it.
I've heard a lot of guys saying that a MWF schedule was working well for them. I know it wouldn't be optimal for the prop ester, but I would think the phenyl-prop ester would keep your levels stable. What are your thoughts about this vs EOD?
Wonderful information. I don't plan on switching (sust to test, etc.), but I just wanted to know what was involved if it ever happened. My home was robbed a couple of years ago and they took all the meds in the house. I wasn't cycling at the time, but it got me thinking about if something happened like this and I was forced to switch mid-cycle. Thanks so much for everyone sharing their knowledge!
Honestly, I would keep the long esters C & E together. Say, you start with C and run out, but only have E on hand. The basic compound molecular structure of C & E are different, but, very similar. If you started injecting E as opposed to C, then you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. But Sustanon, is a different compound because it has four esters that are short, medium, and long, so if you changed to sustanon after using E or C, you would need to increase the frequency of your injections some to get the same effect for a long acting ester. There are some blends that are manufactured with 250mg each of test C & E for a 500mg dose per cc. I wouldn't switch anything though.
Great information. I'm not planning on switching, but if I ever needed to, it's good to know whats possible. Thanks!
No problem. I was planning on combining ester compounds of E & C for our next project.
Mike1982That was some good info med. Also what I want to try and do is add c or e to the sustanon to bridge that gap between phenylprop and ISO. It's that gap between the two that makes sustanon unfavorable for most people who are looking for stable blood levels. So I'm wondering and trying to figure out how to and how much e or c to run with the sustanon to keep levels as stable as possible. How awesome would a test with every ester from prop to undecanoate be? Fuckin bad ass but the stability just can't be found yet I don't believe. And c and e are only one position apart so yes they are basically identical.
That would be a great product. I have wondered why no one hasn't put something similar together, but I didn't know there was a stability issue. I suppose you could just stack C/E, but the trick would be he correct ratios. Great stuff.