+ 1 Third Cycle On the Wayyyy...
This will be my third cycle. My first two were test only. First was 500mg Test E for 10 weeks, second was Test E for 12 weeks, kickstarted with P at 125 eod and tapered with P from week 13-15 also at 123 eod. PCT both times was standard 100/100/50/50, 40/40/20/20. Used Arimidex the first time. Aromasin on the second, because I felt being able to run it into PCT would be good... And the rebound from Arimidex seemed best avoided. I have done a lot of digging and come up with this as my next cycle. Just want some feedback, opinions, criticism, whatever you have to offer.
Cycle:
Weeks 1-7:
Test E/C 500mg + Deca 375mg + Arimidex 0.5mg e3d + Cabergoline 0.5mg e3d
Weeks 8-12:
Test E/C 500mg + Deca 375mg + Arimidex 0.5mg e3d + Cabergoline 0.5mg e3d + HCG 250iu e3d
Weeks 13-14:
Test E/C 500mg + Arimidex 0.5mg e3d + Cabergoline 0.5mg e3d + HCG 250iu e3d
Weeks 15-16:
Arimidex 0.5mg e3d + Cabergoline 0.5mg e3d + HCG 250iu e3d
PCT:
Weeks 17-18:
Clomid 100mg + Nolvadex 20mg + Aromasin 6.25mg ED
Weeks 19-20
Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 10mg ED + Aromasin 6.25 EOD
Also, a few people have told me using Sustanon instead of E/C (but at the same dosage) would be a good idea just to get the gains started a bit earlier. I was also told an oral kickstart would be pretty good, too, but I do not want to go that route. I want to introduce only one new steroid at a time... That way, if something gets weird I know what the hell is causing it and can address it much better than if I were throwing a bunch of new shit in at once. Anyway, I am not going to ramble. Again, just looking for opinions/criticism/etc. Thanks for your time, and thanks in advance for your replies.
Btw, 5'10, 170 (cut down from 185 at the end of my last cycle.. felt a little too soft).
Goal: A steady winter bulk, Hoping to put on a good 15-20 lbs... As lean/clean as possible.
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Cabergoline is a strong ass drug bro. Just because bros say it can be useful to take, why are you taking it? You don't even know if your prolactin sensitive or if you even need it.
I was like you and thought I needed to take it just cause I was running a 19nor... I was hitting tren at 100mg/daily so surely I needed the 0.5mg e3d right? Well I took 0.5mg a few weeks into my cycle, and then BAM! for the next few days I fell into a huge depression (nothing triggered it) it was fucked up, I thought maybe the tren was kicking in. A few days later I was back to normal and happy like usual.
A week later I took 0.5mg of caber and same thing! Major depression for a few days, then back to normal. By this time I had suspected the caber to be the verdict, and I thought maybe a lower dose. A week later I tried 0.25mg and depressed again. I stopped taking it after that and during my 20 week cycle I didn't lactate, could always ejaculate, and my sex drive was average.
This is my personal experience with caber, and I will never touch it again unless I need to. My advice would be take it as needed, not take it because you think you need it.
I will definitely take your advice and just have it on hand "in case" rather than just including it in my cycle. I appreciate you sharing your experience with me. Thanks, bro.
I have read many times that when you take a 19nor like deca or tren, that you arnt supposed to use nolvadex. My next cycle will include 500mg of deca and it was suggested to me that I use Toremifene as a substitute for PCT, what I have read about the drug is that it is a "newer more improved" nolvadex... Any thoughts on this?
looks ok with sensible doses, diet is key!! I would personally start the adex at the beginning of week 3 and every 2nd day @ .25 , or you may crash your estro
Actually, scratch that. Just gonna keep the long ester and be patient. I want everything as stable as possible.
yeah test e or test c is easier and more versatile, with less pinning!! you can inject just once a week if you like its your personal option, twice a week if you want. I just pin once a week on long esters, used to do it twice but to much pip etc.
If I were to run Sustanon rather than E/C, when would you suggest starting the Arimidex?
AnonLooks good bro but u could add more to ur pct to keep 99% of ur gains I did it its possible man. I did post of my pct go check it out on my page
Sorry for the format. It did not use the space between the dosages when I posted it... Kinda ripped away the formatting. Ha. I promise it looks better than this. Anyway,
weeks 1-7: 500mg Test, 375mg Deca, 0.5mg Arimidex e3d, and 0.5mg Cabergoline e3d
weeks 8-12: Same + 250 iu HCG e3d.
weeks 13-14: Same as 8-12 minus the Deca
weeks 15-16: Same as 13-14 but without test (only Adex, Caber, and HCG)
weeks 17-20: Clomid/Nolva/Aromasin PCT
... Sorry about that.
I'll +2 you for owning that mess LOL! Edit the whole post bro, most guys won't want to take the time to look at that catastrophe
...and don't use "same as" just write out what you plan on doing
Yeah, I butchered that to pieces. Ha. Fixed now. My bad. Thanks. Ha.