posted Mon, 08/12/2013 - 15:22
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+ 27 What to do about sources like this?
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there was also the scandal of fake pics posted.
I will remove him from the ranks for now until admin decides what to do about it. Personally I dont think a source that would text pics to members and allow them to post as packs received, then plan to alter test results if they are not good, be even allowed on this site.
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AnonAgreed 100000000%
Anontoo late!
WithdrawlPerfect!
how do u know he ll stay and wont just run w/ the money and come back as a new source, now that his rep is ruined any ways
AnonThat will be a case for the mods to look into. Im sure it won't be hard to figure out who he is judging a lot of sources and people had close connections and know quite a bit about his operation.. lots of dead giveaways who sources are when they're coming back as new operations. I believe im batting 1000 right now in that field too lol! All of this is hypothetical of course - can't live our life and make decisions based off it.
Ah but your sniffer is broke and your batting average has dropped!
nice
Good points and I agree with you. Except you have a horse in this race so there's a conflict of interests in your $0.02. Would you assume that a source posting here would have a bias? :-D
I know you've been around from the beginning and have a lot of knowledge on the history of this site. Don't worry big guy, your opinion matters too. :-D
Anonim definitely a bias opinion, but in this case - I think my voice is giving him a chance. Speaking for the members, and the sources... which I don't think many other people here can do. Even if he gets reset, he'll have his customers who stick with him.. and he'll be forced to make right if he wants to get back to the top. Ban him, and he's just going to use all the money he made off people (wrongfully) and start a new operation, which will take about 2 days to realize "its him" (I got an eye for that shit lol) im sure people who got scammed don't want to see him let off by being banned so he can come back, and never pay his debt.. and im sure his regulars don't want him banned because they feel like he's the best thing since white bread. All these newbies think you're being harsh on him, but he would have been lanced a long time ago back in the day lol.
AnonWe're like girls at prom. Smiling in each other's faces and hoping the other one falls down the steps. Of course there's bias!
I wouldn't ban, poses a huge risk of a run off with customer cash.
I'd reset, since if you're going to do sketchy, fake shit at the top, then you've absolutely done it the entire time to get there.
Yes, I'm being bias,catty and honest at the same time lol.
ClassyChassisReally a src in many cases is only as good as his supplier. Some src may have good connections, others maybe not so consistent. The question becomes, "is this a man who values his integrity, or does this man place his own profit above the service he is supposedly providing his customers?"
In this case, by his own words, the answer is apparent. I'm sure there are many who would do the same in a similar circumstance. The moral here for me, is to stick with the src with "good connections". And thank you to Angus and Beaker for the work they do in helping us make those determinations.
Am I missing something here? I have read this entire thread (twice) and don't understand how people can suggest that this source kiss and make up. Imagine taking a script to CVS or Walgreens, paying your cash and getting bunk. We are not in a position to press charges as would be the case with your corner pharmacy, but damn, there is NO WAY I would ever send them a nickel in the future. Yes, I look forward to the explanation letter, but the email pretty much says it all.
RustyhookerWhat you're missing is the entire reason eroids exists. If we don't know who's good, bad or scamming then the sources can simply move site or reinvent as a new source. Like last month with an old brewer returned putting wrong oil into wrong bottles and bunk gear. This site keeps all that out in the open so that customers are fully aware of possiblw problems. Thats why soyrce talk etc isn't allowed on forums....to stop fanboys from making commercials.
Many sources have erred since i started here. Some clean their mess and still hold top reviews. Others flat split and opened elsewhere. Time will tell what perf does. If he coreects.....he's not the first.
Mods guard OUR asses. Our reviews guard oyr brothers asses. Hopefully folks see how strong our bond is here. Hopefully thosr pisted mass specs and bloods take on a whole new meaning on OUR RESPONSIBILITY here.
noob941well said brother, i know youve guarded me a cpl times and enlightened me for sure that is what defines eroids. +1
RustyhookerIt's the site Eroids and Mods bro. I'm just a lil spoke in the wheel. We all work hard for ours. Paying it forward a day at a time.
I agree with you entirely, except there are circumstances where I (personally) do not extend a second-chance. I cut an employee loose last week because he decided to steal from the company. I could never trust him again. This falls into that category. And I applaud the efforts of the mods to bring this to light and let the members here make their minds up as to whether they will do business with this source in the future.
RustyhookerYour very correct in your approach. Now imagine that scenario here. That employee could just duck out...fake a name and return. So if that employee is "known" as a thief by everyone, then it safeguards all.
In the real world if you present theft proof to that persons next boss, you can be sued. Your hands are tied by legality issues. Here, if a source steals then it's full blast.
I definitly appreciate your honesty! That's what keeps you here and in good standing.
I think eroids should wait and see if he takes care of everyone he ripped off.
I agree with you. But hey, if anyone wants to forgive and forget that is fine, I just know I will avoid dealing with him like the plague..
http://www.eroids.com/pics/perfs-toaster-oven
okay so ive only read like 4 pgs back so far but this place really is exactly like a family!! emotions runnin high, hurt feelings, scandals, and drama plentiful up in here hahaha. i kid tho, dont take me to serious just yet, i love it here and think things like this is what makes us stand out and above the rest, what makes us die hard eroids members - because we got each others' backs and enough integrity as a community and as men to not give in to greed.
that being said, i absolutely 100% agree what perf did was wrong and fucked up in every sense of the word, but i seem to be the only one whos not surprised here! now ive never dealt with perf or ran his gear, so im not speakng on him personally rather tha nature of the beast ...
i think sometimes we forget that these are DRUGS we're dealing with! not in the normal sense of the word we're used to, but still a drug all the same imo. thing is when you're fuckin with illegal drugs, you're gonna come across some shady ass people bros! make no mistake my friends, there is A LOT of money trading hands because of this site ... staying in the top 5 could very well quadruple a sources business from say droppng to #8 or 9. when lots of cash and drugs are involved, people sources absolutely included, can lose their way and get caught up in the greed.
i think we forget this more often than not because we can communicate so readily with the source owners themselves, but we never get a chance to look them in the eye as we do business to judge for ourselves whether or no theyre trustworthy.
theyre are definitly several sources i trust, and lots more id be willing to trust if i had crazy cash to spend on gear but i dont. oh well. unfortunately i dont even have much of a point to make other than dont be so surprised that a drug dealer turned out to be a snake! i know many really good dudes that slang, hell my own brother does, so its hit or miss. stay vigilant my friends, dont spend any $ you cant afford to lose
Dood wtf I just paid this man yesterday... hes not answering me at all now. Fuck me
I’ve had a chance to reflect on the situation. I’m not an emotional guy, and always like to take a step back before I react to situations and this is one of those situations.
Upon reading the email that was posted here, I was pretty pissed off. I was mainly pissed because I’ve been a supporter of perf in the past, referred people to him, and have spent a little time on his source discussions laughing and joking with that filthy crowd. My initial anger came because If perf is shit, and I’ve been supporting him then it makes me look like shit and pisses on my own credibility. I never purchased any of his gh, so that really didn’t get me going. It was just the fact that I look like an asshole for supporting a guy that does this kind of thing. That alone can be quite unraveling. I can only imagine how perfs gh customers might feel.
So I sat back last night and thought for a while at how I’m going to approach this. Do I join the lynch mob and hang the bastard? Or do I sit back and see how this all pans out?
I reflected on my own experience and why I supported him in the first place and honestly, I did it because I like the way he ran business. I never saw him screwing guys, I saw fast, secure deliveries, I ran his gear and I really like his oils. I’ve chatted with perf in PM quite a bit and I can honestly say that perf has never asked or implied that he’d like me to do anything shady. I’ve been around for a while and have seen the selective scammers and shit head sources and used my best judgment and truly believed that Perf was a stand-up guy. I would have never supported him if I didn’t.
So with that, I’ll sit back and observe. I hope perf makes shit right with everyone. I think he will, but I don’t know. As we can see with this situation, maybe my judgment isn’t as good as I thought it was, only time will tell.
This situation puts serious heat on performulations and we will all get a chance to see his true character through this. He’s got a lot of repairs to make and it’s a tough road ahead. If he screws people and runs then please sign me up to hold the rope. If he makes it right, (which I think he will) then I’ll forgive. I’ve done a lot of stupid shit in my life, and forgiveness has always been a welcome healer in all cases. I'm not going to rush to either conclusion.
Good or bad outcome, I do want to apologize to anyone that may feel that my input has led them in the wrong direction. I have always been honest in my reviews and still stand by them. I would never back anything that I thought could hurt people or was bunk. I hope you’ll forgive me for my own poor judgments. I would never mislead anyone especially when it comes to ones health and hard earned money.
Thanks to admin for bringing this to light. You all kick some serious ass and make this place safe for everyone. That definitely earns my respect and admiration. There will never be a site that can come close to Eroids.
All my love, no homo
Ed.
For fucks sake dont you be feeling bad brother... we all get involved in sending someone to a certain SRC but!.. it ends there.... we have zero control from that stage forwards how a certain SRC treats a person or anything else..... i do understand how you feel to some degree bro due to myself being a big promoter of FRANKIE before he hit the wall!..... jesus i even had my great bud trainbrain hooked up with him but luckily none of the guys turned it onto me and fully understood it was purely the SRC that had fucked up bad.
NO guilty feelings brother.... you need to speak one on one you know where i am
Thanks bro. That does make me feel a little better knowing that an immortal messed up once.
You are a good dude and have always been like family to me, right from day one. Tonight, Eroid van gas and duct tape is on me.
but... but .. its not friday yet! lol... suze only lets me play out on a friday.. oh fk it seeing that its you lemme grab a clean pair of under pants lmfaoooooooooo
I'll get the hookers.
biggerthanyouOf the rusty variety ;) no homo
AnonCan someone find me the cliff notes for this post? That would be great! Thanks
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Anoncracks the whip
Anononly when we are having fun!! ;)
Hey bro just sent u a FR have a q
AnonI guess I better get started!!
angusOk guys, I feel like my voice should be heard here because we seem to be implicated (beaker and I) because we are one source of testing, with the other being blood testing. Not that I believe that anyone would think for an instant that we would fudge any numbers but I need to make sure the integrity of our operation is intact so nobody will question it. We were contacted, and ultimately, ran testing on raw material for Perf. And while I cannot and will not divulge the results of those tests I will tell you that he NEVER asked me or hinted at me to change numbers or otherwise lead anyone to a different conclusion than what was printed. So whatever choices he made or actions he took DID NOT INVOLVE BEAKER AND I. The whole premise behind what we do is honesty, and just for future reference if anyone ever asks us to manipulate data let me answer now, FUCK OFF and die. I don't care who it is, it could be BFG himself and we wouldn't be dishonest (not that it would ever happen, just an example).
I'm not standing up for perf, he made his own decisions. But this is the exact reason people get their gear tested and I fully recommend it. Regardless of the test that gets done, sources need to be randomly checked....even if they're in the top 5 they should still be held accountable in my opinion.
RustyhookerYou two have been raising the bar for all here. Dont worry....keep doing great things!
Until I read your post I did not even think of you involved in this. I now see how someone could come to the conclusion that you 2 might of had something to do with this. My thought.There is no fucking way. I have talked to you a bit and know you wouldnt screw anyone. The service that you both provide is the greatest thing that happened to AAS since Eroids. You have started a new tren (lol)with all the sources testing their gear to make sure the raws are good. It is very easy to prove a source bad now. Thank you both.
That thought never even entered my mind. You and BEAKER are a priceless edition to the eRoids community IMO. Keep up the great work. I know there's a ton of members here that feel exactly as I do.
Questions, are you running a first come first serve service ?? Also a "rumor" says your 4-6 week out ? How many source are you testing daily ?? Also have you tested Raws for Perf's and what was the out come ? Just general questions ?? Thanks Angus !
well goddamn man... what are you doing? writing a damn article for usa today?
AnonApparently the raws for the oilwere not good or they would br posted.....i just kind a read between the lines...could. b wrong
angusFR sent.
Got it sent PM
Thanks for the clarification and thank you for the service you provide us with here at eroids. I agree 100% that ALL sources should have random checks and be held accountable!
Just for clarification brother, was this HGH raws or AAS?
angusIt was AAS and I realize the discussion was about HGH but you know people are going to start questioning his AAS now.
Yeah well they shouldn't question it without evidence. I personally believe from what I have seen as far as progress pictures and testimonies that is not the case. Anymore than you or beaker should even be mentioned in this as lacking integrity without concrete proof. I hate witch hunts!
VewiMy last comment on the issue.
I think he made a bad move, he fucked up big time. Now he needs to go sit in the corner for a bit and reevaluate what he did, and how to take a bad situation into a good one.
This is how character is made.
I bet if something like this happened on another AAS site that whoever was running it probably wouldn't really care about it or even mention it in the first place. Hats off to the mods here. This is a risky business in the first place, but when I see mods bringing an issue like this to light for all of us it makes me feel alot better knowing somebody is actually out there trying to weed out people like this which helps to minimize our chances of getting bunk gear and wasting our money and time.
It makes me wonder who else?? If there is anyone else (top20) being shady like this. In the long run it will get you no where. Sell good gear and we will keep buying it.