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Putting pros on blast about their dis honesty!

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So been following this guy on facebook and the youtubes for a little while. Seems to be an honest kid. Won a few shows and has some videos about synthol use and his gear regimine and feels that by posting these videos he is placing himself apart from all of the stigma/drama/negative media about bodybuilding and our lifestyle. He started young and not many people agree with what he took at a young age but this video is his response to newish pro Dallas Mcgarver calling him out on muscle developement saying himself (mgcarver) is close to being all natty. I call bullshit. Loyd responds to being called out and as with all his other videos seems knowledgable for his age. Video is a little repetative and drawn out but has merrit. Enjoy and tell us what you think! Agree disagree what what!

http://youtu.be/4Nsv7sUvDk8

dudebro's picture

This guy talks too much holy fuck. He pretty much told everyone who his trainer was that was pushing all that gear.

POWER LIFTER's picture

Some times u gotta jerk off on camera to pay for ur drugs

manbearpig's picture

Hahaha this is some funny shit. Looks like some serious mudslinging. I really do like his channel tho. It's good to hear the truth especially when it's coming from someone who has the potential, the results, and is giving specific details about their own experience.

4speed's picture

cant even finnish watching that video, its all about i know someone who told me something about someone :-) i dont know this 2 guys what is this video about but its look like they just slag each other on internet.

youngtricep98's picture

All these young guys peak way too soon. Waste of genetic gifts

tonski_214's picture

agreed. where did all the hard work go. I mean i know i dabbled in gear younger than most but i keep seeing and hearing about all these people using to much too soon. and using tren first or second cycle. part of me feels bad for them and wants to help and the other half just makes me wana sit here and laugh as they ignore sound advice and fuck up their bodies

italian92101's picture

I was competing when that mofo when the show, and the saw I'm 2 months later at anotoher show he wasn't competing said hi to me, I complimented I'm on is videos but he looked like shit massive gut and watery face from slin I guess....

OmNom's picture

Yeah it's the slin

j223's picture

I've never had watery face from slin and I've used up to 40iu. The gut yes when I ate 2lb steak and 1lb potatoes and bowl of green beans all in one sitting, yes the gut will be sticking out but bloatface no thats from estrogen most likely high dose testosterone 2g's

OmNom's picture

ahhh 2 g's is a lot.. I get a little bloat in the face if I don't stay on top of my AI with 1 g I can't imagine 2

j223's picture

same here haha I've never passed 1g test. I do know the guy in the vid hits 1.5-2g's though

OmNom's picture

I'm at 1.2g (my highest so far) right now with shock therapy ed and it's pretty intense

OmNom's picture

1g isn't the norm here.. Well I normally run 250-500.. 750 on occasion but this is my first time with test this high.. It was mostly out of curiosity.. I have to say there is a difference but it is not HUGE by any means.

OmNom's picture

The side effects would be dependent on your diet with the slin.. I recall in one of his vids him saying he takes out 3 footlongs from subway for a meal.. That kind of eating with slin and the large amounts of gear he's on doesn't surprise me at all he gets bloated like a balloon

j223's picture

So I think I actually seem to get leaner when using it because of conscious fat restrictions during the day.

That and all the carbs you eat are being pushed to the muscle rather than being stored as fat. So yes low dose insulin with the right diet will actually make you leaner.

j223's picture

I have had good success with high protein moderate carb, moderate fats while on slin. Most people ONLY focus on carbs but I focus on protein first then carbs. I do not avoid fats at all. Oh and especially while on tren you can eat a ton of carbs on insulin and not get fat since tren burns the excess carbs

POWER LIFTER's picture

u would only get fat if u eat alot of saturated fats on slin, from my experience , unsaturated fats on slin doesnt make u fat.

j223's picture

exactly

OmNom's picture

Every time the topic comes up on slin I'm tempted to try it by things like this.. I'm very careful.. but the idea of ever becoming diabetic from it kills the idea for me =[

j223's picture

Your pancreas does not know if you inject exogenous insulin or not. If your blood glucose levels are LOW then your pancreas will not secrete insulin. If they are high - insulin is secreted.

OmNom's picture

Hmm do you think HGH is a must with slin?.. I'll do deeper research on slin

j223's picture

There is a definite synergy between AAS and slin alone. But yes adding HGH is extremely beneficial. I still believe slin + aas = more gains than aas alone. Mostly will notice increased pumps, recovery, strength and some minor weight gains. You will notice an increased fullness in the muscles and vascularity as well. But that's about it. Without HGH you will not just pack on freakish mass from slin and AAS.

With the HGH added your body will use fatty acids as an energy source. Which means the insulin you are taking will push the carbs and amino acids you consume straight into your muscle cells so more overall nutrition for your muscles to use to reconstruct.

OmNom's picture

Ahhh I've really procrastinated on jumping on hgh.. My main problem is a lot of brands are getting mixed reviews with blood work etc which makes me reluctant to order a few kits

j223's picture

there's a source here (I won't say any names) that is pushing pharma and using propaganda towards ALL chinese HGH giving off the impression that Chinese HGH are all fake.

Anyways don't buy into that bullshit nobody can afford $700 a month for HGH pharma. Hyges are good just pay attention to mass spec and blood tests, speak with gorillafit there's plenty of options out there without needing to take a loan to pay for it. Hyges are relatively consistent and I know a few sources where you can get 10 kits for less than $1800 pm me. That's enough for 4-8 months worth. Oh and GG's VIPS are great too and low price.

I've spoken with a bodybuilder who used to sell hyges, serostim, lily humatrope, and RIPS and he told me you need at least 5-6iu pharma per day to get mass gain and 8iu rips/hyges is just as good as pharma but you may get side effects like tingly hands or water retention due to the different binders they use. However in the end results should be the same from 5iu pharma as 7iu rips/hyges only you might notice a slight water retention but save 75% of your wallet.

OmNom's picture

I'll check when I get back from the gym.. chest day ohh yeah

j223's picture

exogenous insulin actually relieves your pancreas. Because your pancreas is secreting insulin 24 hours a day 7 days a week forever. Since humalog only lasts 2-3 hours that means your pancreas is taking a 2 hour break. You'd have to inject long acting insulin (Lantus which has a 27+ hour active life) at a high enough dose to completely suppress your pancreas. This would have to continue for months and months and if you ever did stop taking it it's very likely your pancreas would kick back into action secreting natty insulin on its own. It's NOT like testosterone. Why because insulin is released based on blood sugar levels. Insulins job is to lower BG. Testosterone on the other hand is a sex hormone and levels go up or down according to other hormones. Insulin is unlike any other hormone - gh, thyroid, test, estrogen. But I highly doubt its possible to completely suppress your pancreas even with extreme exogenous insulin use.

tonski_214's picture

who loyd or mcgarver? been busy with my business so my eroids time is limited sadly. used to be on here every day, didnt know either one was banned. my apologies for my ignorance if this post offends any of the mods due to the banning. didnt know

tonski_214's picture

damn sucks to suck. anyway you could pm about why they got banned? all the drama happens when im away it seems

OmNom's picture

Was pretty stupid.. It all started from his IRL buddy being a jack ass in these forums and it all snow balled from there