posted Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:27
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A question about Equipose (Boldenone Undecylenate)
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I want to know more about this compound. I dont intend on using it anytime soon.
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What's the correct dosage for this? Does it change when you mix other compounds such as test? Can you use it just by itself?
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Any sides I should be aware of?
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What are the benefits?
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Can an endurance athlete take this with out any fear of a drug test?
I'm interested in its endurance boosting capabilities. And From what I have read "steroid aromatizes very little, and therefore produces almost no estrogenic side effects such as water retention or "gyno"". Any help you can offer would be awesome.
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Straight to the point. I like it.
shirlsguyI need to learn this trait!
No need. We need the engineers of the AAS world. Your personal expirience gives you credibility and confidence about the compound in question.
shirlsguyTrying to skip the battle going on.... I opted for the 800mg level and took a LOT of people's advice to drop the deca to 600mg. That puts my test of 1250 right on for 2:1 Test/Deca.
I'm off the d-bol now, did 6-weeks; they say that is enough abuse to the liver. Still topping off my cycle with a nice long ester tren, about 250mg weekly, will probably ace it up at the half way point.
To me, the addition of EQ is giving me a very solid appearance in the arms... and that is with relatively no gym time as July has been a difficult month. Full time school (basically 6am to 5:30pm) then home education for my ADHD son, and my committed cardio sessions. By the time I meet the attention demands of three children, well.... I planned for July to be a loading phase and workouts dismal.
But, the power is staying and the pump has not really left, so this is a good cycle. I am still getting 4K calories without losing control of the midline, so I have to say that the whole Test/Deca/Eq cycle is what I was hoping for in power/lean gains, but my real goal is to make this shoulder handle some heavier weight.
AnonAa man i was so wrong about EQ im definitly doing it next cycle he did EQ only cycle wow
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p54UvGKwni8
Is this for real? I don't care about all your pubmed shit, there's no research on actual humans anyway. FROM MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE I love the gains and the quality of muscle and vascularity from eq. Not to mention the endurance boost.I'm done.
AnonHow would u kno it was EQ if u stacked it with other compounds. U cant contruct an experiment with mixed ingredients to find out what one ingredient does. Trenbolone is used on cattle nad horse and they blow the fuck up just like in humans
Yes actually, I would because I followed the rule of only running one new compound each cycle. I know what test does to me, I know what deca does to me, and I've never had results quite like these. Especially ones that really started to pop off at around 8 weeks when eq is supposed to kick in. In don't know why you're so argumentative. Tons of ppl on here will swear by eq, not just me.
like I said mate ive stacked other compounds before so I know how my body reacts to each one, I can tell the difference!! that's why you start of with test and work your way up so you get to know how each compound works and how you respond, also, we have trashed this guys thread, that's why I started the other one mate
AnonYea we rewrote this bitch hey why would someone loose karma points i just lost 2 in secounds
Because you have an attitude and come off as an arrogant know it all. And you're too hard headed to listen to anything anyone else has to say. And you upvote yourself!? Who does that!?
AnonDude relax i was never pulling no attidtude u guys just assume it lol i smile reading this shit jajajaja but i upvoted to see if it made a difference cuz im confused why it happen so just slow ur role man i aint makin no war its all in ur head
More attitude. And you downvote someone just because they have a different opinion than you?? Don't tell me to relax or "slow my Role," lil buddy. I'm done wasting time with you. You might want to work on your approach with ppl on this site if you want to learn anything.
AnonWow n then u say im blowin my top
Anyways my main point was why do EQ when there are other oils thar r more effective with less mg and faster acting and you save money using other stuff. Thats wat i was getting at before it went all hay wire sorry ur getting mad man but if u take asecound take a deep breathe and read wat i wrote ull see i never dissed no body
I'm calm bro lol. You were kind of disrespectful and arrogant, but whatever, I really don't care. I guess we'll agree to disagree. I think it depends on what you're goals are, but for me I want gradual, quality, lean muscle gains, that are easy to maintain after pct. IMO there is almost nothing better than eq, besides tren, but not everyone wants to run tren. I don't yet.
If you want fast gains and sheer size and strength, then sure, go with deca and an oral like dbol or drol. I just don't like the bloating and water weight that easily inflates and deflates on it.
Now go ahead and down vote me
Quality is better than quantity. I understand ya.
Thank you! Fr accepted
AnonNaa man i wont do that i downvoted some one that voted me cuz of a video i put. Yea man we all have our goals. Maybe one day ill add EQ to my cycle and man i got 5vials of Tren but i dare not use it thats for my boiz. Yea man hope we kool b ez bro
We're all good, no worries bro.
well your down voting everybody and upvoting yourself, plus I apoligised to you and you still came back at me
AnonDude what r u talkin bout i never came back at u
That last one was for hypy go look it says @hypy no you
Read before you judge man i told u we r kool
nah mate, everbody has there opinions!! I wasn't having a go at you simply sharing experience etc, I hope I didn't come across as hostile toward you because I didn't intend too its nothing personal
AnonNo i dude i never thot that
ur cool man
Sometimes people get mad by them selves just cuase they want to but when i read all these comments i just laugh
AnonI found the pubmed boldenone undeclyted article testing its effectiveness on horses
Nitrogen reteion only spiked up 5% weight gain was not significantly different compared to placebo. Some place of the grew more than EQ group
The horses treated with boldenone unde-
cylenate gained an average of70.0kg,com- pared with53.8kgfor the placebo-treated group(TableI).The difference was not statisticaly significant and was attributed to variability among the horses.No differences in hemoglobin and hematocrit values were found.
http://pubmedcentralcanada.ca/picrender.cgi?accid=PMC1696168&blobtype=pdf
Please read all charts compare number control group is the group who didnt get EQ
I rest my case never running EQ again
jasonh4.yes fear a drug test for a long time
i have great results with equi
AnonEquipose give no extra endurance its bullshit man when i took it i thot it was a waste and the appetite thing i think it was more mental and motivation than the EQ there some guy on youtube that took EQ only and he didnt grow at all if u look up EQ on pubmed the cattles and horse did not have no significant growth compared to the placebo i wasted my money on that shit
EQ is the best oil for lubin ur bike LOL
AnonI'm still not so sure about EQ, the jury is still out. I thought I wasted my money too and swore I would never buy it again. I tried it again later and it made me eat like a horse and it was the very same EQ I thought was bullshit. It doesn't make me ANY stronger though.
I understand. please don't get me wrong on what I was trying to say. At first I said everyones body responds different to different compounds . If your body didn't respond well to EQ then maybe its just not for you. I just got upset that this guy was telling me that I'm basically full of shit. I have no reason to lie about how my body reacts to a compound . At least you got the hunger sides last time . but if that's the only thing yoy felt . I wouldn't run it again !
AnonNaaa man u got me wrong never meant it on disrespect i was just sharing my experience wen i would kick the bag i didnt feel anymore endurance than before just strong but i was on test n dbol. I kno it didnt shit for me cuz i startrd add EQ to my cycle 3weeks in the 2weeks later i adder dbol n i frlt the dbol difference with da pumps so for me ill nvr buy it again
Of course you feel the dbol kick in more intensely! Dbol kicks in days and is an intense steroid, eq takes 8-10 weeks to fully kick in. How long did you run it for? Gains from dbol come and go real quick, but I can tell my eq gains are quality and keepable!!
AnonIf u loose gains from dbol its cuz u hav a lame pct clomid and nolvadex only arent gona keep ur gains im 4weeks off the juice and i havnt shruk nothing im measuring legs arms back sholders still all there
U got other hormones killing ur gains not only estrodoil and T. I must admitt i ran EQ very shortly for 7weeks 600mg still think its a waste
I havnt found a study on pubmed giving glory to EQ
that's it rite there!! boom!!! 7 weeks you stopped!!! week 8 onwards is when it begins bro!!!
No one is gonna keep 100% of gains from dbol after pct, I don't care what protocol you're running. And no wonder you didn't see gains at 7 weeks. That esther needs longer to kick in, that's why 16 week eq cycles are recommended.
I would take eq over dbol any day. Personal experience.
AnonDude well im sorry to break ur heart i havnt lost no muscle... Ima med student
Im not bring rude go look at my successful pct log
like viking told you, that med student shit doesn't fly around here!! real life experiences do!!!
Is that supposed to prove something? You're a med student with grammar like that? And you're telling me you gained and lost exactly NO water weight whatsoever on dbol?
AnonWen it comes to weight yea i lost 2lbs but size i havnt lost nothing man im writing on my iphone and im at work and im not getting graded for grammer. I got anatomy and phsy. 1 and 2, human growth, human biology, microbiology, chemistry, pharmacology all under my belt and many more classes im not going to name yes i have abetter understanding of the human body and how it reacts to certain chemical and how to overcome certain symptoms with certains drug so yes i do have an advantage on making a better PCT these are things u cant learn on the internet. Im not surprise u not beliving me but no one did till now that see i havnt lost no size.
AnonI think I may know what it is brother. It says on your profile that you have a little over 20% body fat? I was running a little "fat" when I tried it and got nothing out of it. i dropped some weight and noticed it working like everyone else said it would. for a strong ass dirty fat ass bulker, i like to use some deca and dbol but if I am lean and running a really lean bulker I can actually notice EQ working. You may different though because all of us are.
Good Luck.
What kind of endurance sport is it that you do? I'm a Boxer and have been for quite some time. EQ 100% raises your endurance. Also, If you are running something that hinders your endurance like say Tren , Then it will help to counter these negative sides. How long did you run EQ for? Also The muscle growth you gain from EQ might not be as significant as Test or Tren but you will retain close to all of your gains. Maybe your body does not respond well to the compound. I cant speak for you. But I can speak for myself and my body responds very well to the compound.
X2, I agree completely!
AnonKickboxer, insanity and p90x didnt see no endurance at 600mg same shit.
All AAS raise RBC if u take deca only u grow if u take NPP only u grow if u take test alone u grow if u take EQ alone nothing happens
What does that tell u
Why would you run deca or npp alone? Why would you run eq alone? P90 and insanity? No offense man but I think you should stick to doing your 8 minute ab videos natural, and leave the anabolics for people who do serious weight training. Eq is an amazing compound depending what your goals are. One of my favorites, and I probably won't cycle without including it in my stack from here on out.
I like it stacked with test and just a small amount of deca. I am extremely vascular and hard on it. Although I get no hunger increase, I'm getting pretty shredded.
I like eq better than npp actually, and you really can't compare eq and deca they produce entirely different results.
AnonNever ive just read of people who have run it alone and they still blow up with EQ alone nothing happens so why stack it
btw way mate, ive been doing muay thai kickboxing and zen do kai for many many years, I also play aussie rules football, and hit the gym 6 times a week, and I have a lot more endurance lately, my sparring partners cannot keep up!!!
AnonThats gansta man whats zen do kai?
Krafton blaze trained me a lil while ago i stop going cuz of school but i still hit the bag n spare wit my bro n cuzin
zen do kai is a form of martial arts that originated here in Australia by a guru by the name of bob jones, it is a freestyle form, it includes a mixture of boxing, grapples,brazilian ju jitsu, judo, karate, muay thai, taekwondo they teach you these skills in your own way, as in they take your style and make it better, if it works use it, very street wise moves, and a lot of the old school bouncers and crowd controllers used to learn it, not the new generation of poofy little bouncers who are abunch of soft panzie boys who get there teeth knocked and necks jumped on for fkng with me
You are a kickboxer that does p90x and insanity workouts eh? That does not really make any sense Bro... beings that if I get done with one of my training regs it makes those look like a joke! But to each is own. You are 100% wrong ! I tried to be cool and say maybe your body is different. Well maybe its just you dont know how to run EQ. I asked you how long you ran it.. so? Why do you keep comparing 19nors to a test based compound anyway? I have ran EQ by itself with great results! I just cant fathom that you are telling me how my body responds to something beings the way your body did.... I just dont get it
If he is a kick boxer he's cardio session should be intense. There would be no need for p90x or insanity.
hes never ran it!!! go check his profile!!! he only has one cycle under his belt!!!