+ 1 TRT in your 80's
I'm not on TRT but have been wondering if anyone worries about what will happen as they get older while on TRT? I see many people in their 30's and 40's on TRT and all seems ok now but since it's a lifelong thing. Does it lessen when you get into your elder years? Do you stop once you get past a certain age since test ranges would be so low anyway? Assuming you live till your 80, that's 40 years of TRT. Would it basically be malpractice for a doctor 30-40 years (hell even 10 years) from now to decide you can be treated anymore? If you stopped 30 years from now, would your system "reboot" to produce at least low test range that an elder typically produced.
I could see it having an impact on blood pressure issues and such later in life if it's not now, or even if it's borderline now.
What would you do and for some reason you couldn't find a doctor to give a script. 30-40 years from now, eroids may not be here so finding gear at that age might be difficult. LOL
Most probably don't worry about this I'm sure but I think it's a valid question over the longevity of your well being?
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Once you sign up on TRT know that it's for life. The moment you stop all the crappy symptoms of low test will come back in a hurry and then some.
Only 18 years away for me. Shit.....but I plan to be on the rest of my life if I can still get underground. although I did not start until about 2 years ago and have been mainly (couple months off) blasting, not trt
I'm hoping that by the time I'm 80, that TRT and hormone therapy in general will be so commonplace that it will essentially be an OTC or very easy to obtain - much like estrogen/birth control pills are for women.
Probably not...but I can always hope...
Backup plan to that is to just plan for it and have enough cash socked away to be able to afford it - however when you're 80 you can probably get away with less than 100mgs per week and feel awesome.
As long as the black market will continue to exist - I'm sure I can swing 6 bottles of test for the year, even on a fixed income. And the beauty of that is if LE come's a knockin' - you can just act like a crazy senile old kook!
waltrif i'm 80 years old i'll be happy to wipe my own ass, don't think i'll be too worried about my test levels ;P
Lol good point
Still though at that age would you want to feel as best as possible
Lol
Have a friend in his early 60s, been using test for about 10 years and now has stage 1 prostate cancer. No more injections for him as the doctors say it's like throwing fuel on a fire. So he's trying everything is his power to raise his testosterone naturally. My question is: Wouldn't raising natural testosterone levels yield the same results as synthetic test.... having a negative impact on any possible growth of prostate cancer? Or is the link between testosterone and prostate cancer more fiction than it is fact?
There's no relationship between testosterone and prostate cancer - http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/100/3/170
His doctor's really need to stay educated...
In medicine, we used to actually cut off men's testicles when they got prostate cancer to stop testosterone production. That is no longer the standard of care as it did nothing but make people feel like shit and there was no improvement in their disease progression. As one surgeon once told me "think of all the unnecessarily shorn balls."
Yes, a tragedy indeed!
AnonThere is nothing to substantiate any correlation with testosterone and prostate cancer. More fiction than fact. This is a paragraph from a link below which may shed some light on this.
Last but not least is the notion that testosterone is not safe for the prostate. This notion is incorrect, as illustrated in the January 2004 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine, which reviewed numerous medical studies and found absolutely no evidence that testosterone therapy causes prostate cancer. In fact, the report notes that prostate cancer becomes more prevalent exactly at the time of the man’s life that testosterone levels decline.Here's a link that may shed some light on this.
https://ndnr.com/web-articles/mens-health/nov-08-testosterone-and-prosta...
I agree with you 100%. Before starting trt I read as much as i could about test and prostate cancer. The notion that higher test correlates to prost cancer started in a basement at harvard U many years ago, it was a published article without any hard studies done on it.
Coolio nooka... appreciate that ;-)
It wouldn't yield the same effect, T injections are much more potent than any 'natural' level he would get, it would be more healthier to try naturally increasing it if he has cancer, if his doctor recommended it. Medically, test is not the issue mate, its dht which may add 'fuel to the fire' which converts from test through the 5 alpha reductase enzyme. Just research medical journals and learn, bro. Any level of test may spike up the cancer, but having a natural level would no way equate to having a hugh level from test injections. The guy should discuss it all with his doctor, I hope he recovers well.
I don't know if there is a direct link but what you say makes sense. Unless synthetic is more powerful than natural test, comparing level to level. But what concerns me is in addition to the cancer, he will have to deal with lower test. We crash after a cycle. I would think a crash after so many years of TRT would be equally as shifty, if not worse because you are dealing with other health issues.
Do doctors try and shut down natural test when one gets cancer? Or does the process of chemo or other treatment shut it down anyway.
That I don't know brother, about the chemo shutdown, I would imagine being it kills everything else in your system. And yes he is depressed understandably, but his cancer is at such a low stage, that they are monitoring it and no use of radiation pellets or any other treatment. I think I would just have the prostate removed at his age so I could keep my TRT injections... thats gotta be better that lortab or xanax ;-)
Yep makes sence bro a valid question indeed.i will check this later could be intresting thumbs up from me