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Why am I losing weight on my cycle?

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I finished my 6 weeks of taking tbol 50 mg @ day last week. Ever since I stopped taking tbol i begun to lose some weight and this is baffling me. I'm currently taking 600 mg of Test E and 600 mg of EQ weekly. I'm eating up to 350 grams of protein a day and no more than 3500 calories. Is this normal to lose some weight while on cycle? Should I be concerned?

Mars's picture

it amazes me just how people come up with advices lol.. yes advices.. (arnold reference)

do a quick google search and educate yourself

watch this video --> http://youtu.be/IXYl-ouceY0

also I'd get your bloods and make comparisons to your previous bloods, if your gear is underdosed it can effect your cycle and what your expecting as well.

The BMR or Basal Metabolic Rate is the calorie requirement for your body to function when you are in complete rest. The formula for BMR is:

English Formula (Inches and Pounds):
Women BMR = 655 + ( 4.35 x weight ) + ( 4.7 x height ) - ( 4.7 x age in years )
Men BMR = 66 + ( 6.23 x weight ) + ( 12.7 x height ) - ( 6.8 x age in year )
Metric Formula (Cm and Kg):
Women BMR = 655 + ( 9.6 x weight ) + ( 1.8 x height ) - ( 4.7 x age in years )
Men BMR = 66 + ( 13.7 x weight ) + ( 5 x height ) - ( 6.8 x age in years )
Daily Calorie Needs Calculator

Determine your total daily calorie needs by multiplying your BMR by the listed activity level below. The daily calorie need is calculated with the help of Harris-Benedict principle which states how the Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) is calculated. Be on the conservative end when making this calculation, if you have an office job and workout 6X a week you would still fall in the moderate active level. What's nice about eroids is you have people from all kinds of backgrounds and experiences.. this is part of what I do as a profession for the byandby

Your Activity Level: Daily Calorie Need
Sedentary (little or no exercise) BMR x 1.2
Lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) BMR x 1.375
Moderately active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) BMR x 1.375
Very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) BMR x 1.725
Extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) BMR x 1.9

meanwhile you can watch this video lol.. love random shit.. I'd recommend you stay away from as much processed foods as possbile.. whole foods, esspecially plant based foods are going to help you - fresher is better so farmer's markets are great and you can save a ton of $$, you make freinds with the right people and talk about a hook up with some thing you NEED (food) - getting a greater amount of carbs from whole food, plants in your diet along with plenty of water can do wonders to your body. shows in all my clients and I'm walking proof. those kinds of carbs and increases of those will fill your muscles out and clean your butthole out. you don't need as much protein as you've been lead to believe but you do need enough to support muscle growth and you need to focus on the foods and variety of foods that provide enough essential aminos that your body needs in greater amounts as greater stresses such as working out place upon the body.. stay away from excessive oils, fried foods, basicly common sense - bad fats.. good fats come from again, whole foods - plants! - you still get some from other sources but seriously limit or avoid all together dairy and fatty cuts of meat.

http://youtu.be/1Xy2HzYra_s

Mars's picture

it amazes me just how people come up with advices lol.. yes advices.. (arnold reference)

do a quick google search and educate yourself

also I'd get your bloods and make comparisons to your previous bloods, if your gear is underdosed it can effect your cycle and what your expecting as well.

The BMR or Basal Metabolic Rate is the calorie requirement for your body to function when you are in complete rest. The formula for BMR is:

English Formula (Inches and Pounds):
Women BMR = 655 + ( 4.35 x weight ) + ( 4.7 x height ) - ( 4.7 x age in years )
Men BMR = 66 + ( 6.23 x weight ) + ( 12.7 x height ) - ( 6.8 x age in year )
Metric Formula (Cm and Kg):
Women BMR = 655 + ( 9.6 x weight ) + ( 1.8 x height ) - ( 4.7 x age in years )
Men BMR = 66 + ( 13.7 x weight ) + ( 5 x height ) - ( 6.8 x age in years )
Daily Calorie Needs Calculator

Determine your total daily calorie needs by multiplying your BMR by the listed activity level below. The daily calorie need is calculated with the help of Harris-Benedict principle which states how the Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) is calculated. Be on the conservative end when making this calculation, if you have an office job and workout 6X a week you would still fall in the moderate active level. What's nice about eroids is you have people from all kinds of backgrounds and experiences.. this is part of what I do as a profession for the byandby

Your Activity Level: Daily Calorie Need
Sedentary (little or no exercise) BMR x 1.2
Lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) BMR x 1.375
Moderately active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) BMR x 1.375
Very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) BMR x 1.725
Extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) BMR x 1.9

Mars's picture

sry was editing my post to be more detailed and guess I took too long looking for you tube video's, talking to someone on the fone, checking my email, and writing this..

Mars's picture

right on

Makwa's picture

When I am trying to gain weight I'll bump my calories up 500 above my BMR. By keeping your cals close to your BMR you should more or less stay the same weight but change your body composition (recomp). Don't let weight be the determining factor on the success of your cycle. Invest in a body caliper or bathroom scale that tracks bodyfat, lean muscle, water weight. That is the best way to actually know if your losing/gaining muscle/fat. The mirror can be a pretty good judge also

Mars's picture

good advice on the BF test on the regular.. I think he's doing right with 3700 and access from there if he needs to tweak up or down 250-500 kcals at a time.. he can also have a ~300 kcal increase in carbs for two days then go back down to norm to keep his body nice and energized. (a way/type of carb cycling)

Mars's picture

it amazes me just how people come up with advices lol.. yes advices.. (arnold reference)

do a quick google search and educate yourself

watch this video --> http://youtu.be/IXYl-ouceY0

also I'd get your bloods and make comparisons to your previous bloods, if your gear is underdosed it can effect your cycle and what your expecting as well.

The BMR or Basal Metabolic Rate is the calorie requirement for your body to function when you are in complete rest. The formula for BMR is:

English Formula (Inches and Pounds):
Women BMR = 655 + ( 4.35 x weight ) + ( 4.7 x height ) - ( 4.7 x age in years )
Men BMR = 66 + ( 6.23 x weight ) + ( 12.7 x height ) - ( 6.8 x age in year )
Metric Formula (Cm and Kg):
Women BMR = 655 + ( 9.6 x weight ) + ( 1.8 x height ) - ( 4.7 x age in years )
Men BMR = 66 + ( 13.7 x weight ) + ( 5 x height ) - ( 6.8 x age in years )
Daily Calorie Needs Calculator

Determine your total daily calorie needs by multiplying your BMR by the listed activity level below. The daily calorie need is calculated with the help of Harris-Benedict principle which states how the Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) is calculated. Be on the conservative end when making this calculation, if you have an office job and workout 6X a week you would still fall in the moderate active level. What's nice about eroids is you have people from all kinds of backgrounds and experiences.. this is part of what I do as a profession for the byandby

Your Activity Level: Daily Calorie Need
Sedentary (little or no exercise) BMR x 1.2
Lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) BMR x 1.375
Moderately active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) BMR x 1.375
Very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) BMR x 1.725
Extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) BMR x 1.9

meanwhile you can watch this video lol.. love random shit.. I'd recommend you stay away from as much processed foods as possbile.. whole foods, esspecially plant based foods are going to help you - fresher is better so farmer's markets are great and you can save a ton of $$, you make freinds with the right people and talk about a hook up with some thing you NEED (food) - getting a greater amount of carbs from whole food, plants in your diet along with plenty of water can do wonders to your body. shows in all my clients and I'm walking proof. those kinds of carbs and increases of those will fill your muscles out and clean your butthole out. you don't need as much protein as you've been lead to believe but you do need enough to support muscle growth and you need to focus on the foods and variety of foods that provide enough essential aminos that your body needs in greater amounts as greater stresses such as working out place upon the body.. stay away from excessive oils, fried foods, basicly common sense - bad fats.. good fats common from again, whole foods - plants! - you still get some from other sources but seriously limit dairy and fatty cuts of meat.

http://youtu.be/1Xy2HzYra_s

Makwa's picture

Even though tbol is supposed to produce dry gains, it could be that you lost a little water weight since you stopped takin it. 3500 cals is not that much if you are worried about putting on some weight. Up your calories and especially carbs and you should see some increases in weight.

RickRock1086's picture

X2.
2 pounds is not that much of a weight loss..

cry_havoc's picture

You are also only in the first 7 weeks of a cycle where eq will take 7-8 weeks to kick. You will notice appetite increase and strength as your plasma levels reach a steady state with the eq. You could up your calories but I think this will happen normally on the EQ cycle.

RickRock1086's picture

Sounds to me like u need to up ur cals a bit bro, plain and simple. If you are a hecto trying to gain weight u need to get at least 5K cals to compensate for workouts and the fast metabolism we have. Can you post stats??? may be that would help us to see more details u might not even be an hectomorph and im already assuming u r lol

cj0cj0's picture

if tbol im sure some of it is water bro

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RickRock1086's picture

You might can just up ur cals and protein intake aswell. U r already big and the bigger u get the more food u need to keep growing(im sure u already know this) to optimise protein metabolism i would say get at least 2grms protein/ pound of body weight. And at least 5K calories. Is just simple bro, u need to eat big to get big. Hope this helps & if it doesnt, either ur gear is bunk or u have some kind of medical problem that u r not aware of.