+ 7 Tren, from a different point of view
Hi, I have not been online very much as of late but within the last week or so I have. I have seen a lot of posts about Tren any why people say it can be bad. I am a woman obviously and I have never used the stuff, but many of you know my husband i'm sure and he loves it. But there was a time when it wasn't exactly a great thing for me when he would use it. When I met my husband he was very much active in the local boxing circuit and he kept his AAS use from me for a while. He was already an aggressive guy but I could tell sometimes that something wasn't quite right. When I would bring it up he would get defensive and irritated with me. So for a long time I let it go. After we had kids and time went on I couldn't deal with it anymore. At this point I knew when he was using what and I was even using Anavar myself. So why was it bad? Well, he would scream and curse at strangers in the street for the dumbest things. When he would drive it was the absolute worst. He would have a very short fuse with me and I just sucked it up even though I didn't like it. Once he started getting irritated with our kids I had just about enough. He had no patience at all with them and it got to the point where they were afraid to talk to him. I had a nice talk with him about this and he told me that he knew when he was acting like this but felt like he had no control. He said it would happen at work too which scared me. A year ago he took a swing at a neighbor and it was really ugly. I thought he was going to jail. He wouldn't sleep very much. Sometimes he would get out of bed in the middle of the night and strip his clothes off because he was always so hot. He complained about constant headaches. It was just ugly. I started keeping an eye on his blood pressure which never seemed to be high which i found odd. He agreed that it was a problem and I could see that he was putting out the effort. I could tell when he would get mad and he would catch himself. It didn't take him long to get a handle on himself once he accepted what I was saying. But it did take years of heartache for me, my kids and my husband because of this dumb substance. Today he seems to be at his best when he uses it. I believe it is because he expects that he is being an ass and he doesn't allow it. When I told him that our kids were afraid of him it opened up his eyes. HE is actually sweet and easy going when he uses it. It is the weirdest thing. But it just goes to show that self control and self awareness goes a long way. So the point of this is you all may be think you're ready for this stuff. Maybe you are, I don't know. But have you ever stopped to think about how it makes you act and how those actions are affecting the people you love? It is a very powerful hormone and I don't see why everyone is in such a big rush to use it. You may think i'm just some dumb woman who doesn't know what she is talking about but I lived this. Some of you are so young. You don't need it. you guys with wives, girlfriends and kids, think about it.
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AnonThank you all for the replies. I'm happy it gave you a different way of looking at it.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkGood read, I notice I am quicker to verbally lash out and more agrivated at little things when on. I try to practice patience so I am not a dickhead around my family. Sometimes I have to stop and think about the situation instead of just going on auto-pilot and getting myself in trouble. I think it is good to have more self awareness when taking these substances.
Good post
No one of quality here will think your dumb. Women
We love and respect our women here
And very often regulate Tren usage and talk people out of use
I was gonna use Tren until I came here
Got same goals testosterone only and diet bc of the people here
And my test is fuckin Potent so that helps
Great to read it from the point of view of "the other half", thank you.
The part that hit home with me is the kids. I'm a laid back and calm guy, but the fuse gets shorter for me the longer the tren goes on. Once I start getting irritable with the kids, it's time to end the cycle. I hate the fact that I've no doubt been an arsehole to junior as a result of putting on a couple of pounds of muscle.
AnonYou are very welcome SDM. The fact that you are aware and know your flaws puts you ahead of the game.
I feel the exact same way. I raised my voice one day and my 4 year old son ran and hid behind the couch. My children will never fear me the way I feared my dad. I'm still not a believer in the whole roid rage thing. But I am much more short fused as you put it and seem to stay annoyed longer I guess on tren. No other compound seems to have that effect on me.
AnonI can feel that when you say it about screaming at your little boy. It was really hard for me to swallow that. My husband would immediately feel bad and apologize but the damage had been done. It's good to see all you guys getting it. I'm glad this helped open some eyes
Goth has always said that steroids don't make you an asshole, they just make you MORE of one. I m really glad you wrote this. I have often thought of writing such a piece but never found the right time or I'd forget or something would come up and it just never got done. I don't suppose many of you guys have had the time to think about your woman, wife, girlfriend or significant other and how we experience YOUR cycles. In all honesty, Bell, you could have been writing about me and Goth. I had a talk with him during the summer about how mean he had become. It really seemed to take him aback and open his eyes to how other people experience his cycles. He really has been much calmer and even more tolerant this go round (maybe he's been too tired to act up, lol, he doesn't seem to sleep much while running it).
AnonLol, a few people said that "sounds like you are writing about me". It's a common but untold story. Or left on the back burner. I say maturity, respect and self awareness are the keys to controlling any unwanted behaviors. Thnx for reading! :-)
AnonThank you to all of you who said this gave you a different perspective. That was my purpose for writing it. I'm happy to help. :-)
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkGreat eye opener. I posted about my girl friend disapproving my use. I have changed a little even with me just running Test and I have a bad temper already, I've taken the steps to control my attitude and I can say my girlfriend telling me how it is and how I act is an eye opener as well you sometimes focus just on yourself but forget the people you care about the most unintentionally, my mother also knows I pin she has said there is a bit of a difference in me but she said she'll kick my ass if I get out of line lol so I stay in check. I'm just fortunate enough to have people that care about my well being
Thanks for the insight Bella
I'll be sure to control my behavior on tren around my ol lady =)
I noticed she never mentions the size, straight, fat loss,improved vascularity which is the reason you take it in the first place. My point is it worth it?
AnonUmm no I didn't mention any of that. It didn't have anything to do with my point. My point is how my husbands use effected me. But to answer the question when I met him he was walking around at 180 something pounds and fighting at 175. In the gym 6 days a week 3 hours a night beating the hell out of people. He was in pretty good shape I'd say. Body fat? He is one of those people who eats everything and anything but never gains a pound of fat. From what he says he didn't even use it right back then. It served a different purpose to him than it would for you. Now that he is into bodybuilding I'd have to say yes, it works. I can see results. Excuse me if this sounds rude but if I wanted to make a post about his gains I would have. I had one objective. To show all you guys how it effects us. Or how it effected me anyway. I hope this answers your question.
Exactly what Nitti wrote below. I am a fighter not a bodybuilder or at least I didn't start off with BB as a goal. There are many reasons for using tren and controlled aggressiveness can be a huge asset. Especially when in a combat situation. Bellona's perspective is dead on from what the wife sees and is completely valid. When I was younger and in the military I had all of those same traits as one using tren when I came home on leave after being in combat. I personally can say that aggression not only saved my life more times than I can remember but also others. But it is hell on those around you when you don't turn it off when it is not needed.
Ohh and you're wrong by the way. Everyone here isn't a bodybuilder. When I started I didn't give two shits about size , vascularity or BF. I was out for one thing, insane power and aggression in the ring! But still, Not her point!
Why would she mention any of that? It isn't her point
All i'm saying whenever taking a substance you have to outweigh the pros an the cons. With Tren cons seem to outweigh pros
You're right in that you have to weigh out the pros and cons on a personal level. But we have no right to make that choice based on the sacrifices of a loved one. We're all self centered and ego driven, but to simply say " I'm gonna run this because I can handle it and don't care how it effects you" is a moronic choice to make if you give half a shit about your wife or girlfriend. She started this post based on the perspective of the spouse who sees what's going on from the outside, not the biological effects it has on the user.
Do you see the title? "From a different perspective". Do you think she have a shit about any of that? Did you read the post? I was an amateur boxer! I can promise you my body fat isn't and never has been higher than 12%. Vascularity , size (I had weight to make) didn't care about none of it! You need to take this comment to another post. You're totally omissions the point of it. And the pros outweigh the cons to who exactly? Every single one of us is different. That's a blanket statement. I have friends who would disagree with you. I disagree because I've seen first hand the ugly effects some have
AnonOhh relax. I'm a big girl. Muah!
Clearly you love him and its also very clear he has a respect for the compound thesedays,tren needs a firm master and i think a lot of the younger guys do not have this strength just yet... i didnt when i was younger i must be honest it helped to wreck my first marriage!.. well! that and finding emails between her and this peice of shit from her workplace had me go ballistic and thats when i found out what a 8x6 cell looks like from the inside... yes!.. i threatened to kill the pair of them (and meant it i was so juiced up) anyways we live and learn and thesedays i have great respect for every compound i use even down to humble base test.... i still have the ocassional temper flare-ups i mean who doesnt we are only human.. but nothing like the extremes of the past.. also like yourselves suze and myself research and use together so i think it helps greatly when both parties are fully aware of what this stuff is capable of and can use certain "tactics" to quickly diffuse what could very fast turn into a volatile situation.
Glad you posted this its nice to see and hear a womens perspective, because at the end of the day if our ladies upped and fucked off due to our selfish roided up actions even the biggest hardest of us would be left looking for the nearest hole to crawl into without our strong loved one at our sides.
You get sick of nitti babe you can come live with me... i only spit fire thesedays when my stomach rumbles lmao! +3
AnonThank you Viking! I agree with you. We are all human and none of us perfect. But these drugs have the ability to change our behavior. I know that steroids won't turn someone who is a nice guy into a dick but they will make us a little bit edgy. They can make our fuses a little bit shorter. Testosterone is a mind altering drug. Its the chemical that makes male animals aggressive and go into heat. It makes the human male ooze confidence. I know a lot of guys will get defensive about me saying that but isn't it true? So you are 100% right in saying that these drugs (I hate using that word) command respect. Mental maturity is most important as far as i'm concerned. When my husband was a little younger it was harder to talk to him. He is in control now and that is what makes me comfortable with him using them. And you are in the United Kingdom right? Maybe i'll come visit, lol. Your stomach would never rumble with me around. I can cook and out lift some of these young guys. ;-)
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkYou are absolutely ON POINT!
This is just an example of how POWERFULL the mind can be, if u can control your mind you can control your body & emotions.
However i feel like "roid rage" is really just an excuse for an ass to be even more ass, some fellas even get angry using Test only.
Anyhow good for Nitty, he seems like a cool fella & glad things are working fine for you guys now. BIG Shout out to our wives/girlfriends for being there supporting and put up with us every day, without you we would be nothing.
Yo Nitti, your wifey is outa the kitchen. Take some control brotha!
I'm just playin. Good post B. I know when I run tren I only run It for 4-5 weeks and then cut it off. Just because at week four, I quit being happy nice Ed and turn into asshole I'm goons eat your babies Ed, and I don't like being that way.
Thanks for the perspective. It's good for us to read this Kind of stuff.
+1
Ps you need to spend more time on Eroids. You kind of brighten the place up. ;)
AnonI try to get on as much as I can. Winter is chaotic for me. Kids in school and so much to do. I'll be back soon and on more often. Thnx Ed. ;-)
I only run it for short periods of time now as well. I stop making gains and sides increase at week 4 or so. But I've AWAYS used tren a. Tren e I'm sure is different in terms of gains/sides time frame. I feel more in control with short Estes.
Lol. A short period of time for you is 8 months for the rest of us.
rumor has it that you pour tren over the top of your wheaties instead of milk.
I actually cut myself with a machete and pour crushed up fina pellets into the cuts. Then I sew it up. It's the best!
Lol. Pussy.
Sewing is for women.
AnonI'm glad I dont get agressive on tren, it really seems to hit some bros harder than others. Nice to see how tren affects people around you from the eyes of someone who was affected. Good post!
Good post mama! Make me sound like a live wire but still a good post from experience. I guess I can give you a point, lol. ;-*
breakingfaceOutbursts of anger are qualities of an unstable person. Unstable people should not mess with their brain chemistry in anyway. That includes steroids, booze, and drugs.
I really feel bad for friends and family that have to deal with someones poor behavior as a result of their substance choices.
Outbursts of anger are qualities of being a human. Every person on this planet has or will become angered at some point in there life, some much more than others obviously. In many ways, anger is simply another form of passion. Not being able to control those outbursts is where the problem lies. Not in having the outburst in general.
breakingfaceWe are saying the same thing. I consider an outburst of anger to be an inappropriate overt expression of emotion that makes others uncomfortable. Being angry is a perfectly normal human emotion, but others shouldnt suffer as a result.
I agree
Excellent post. Very similar to what my wife told me the other day. I had no idea it effected her the way I did. I never blew up on her or anything. But she knows how I can get with other people and it always made her nervous that I was gonna lose control while running tren. I'm not sure if I ever would have or not, but the fact that she had that fear was more than enough reason for me to hang it up for a while, if not for good.
AnonThank you. It is nice to see that some of our men are taking control and making sacrifices. I wasn't trying to make tren sound bad. I just think that it deserves more respect than it gets. I can't believe some of the things I have been reading around here :-(
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkI thought you did a great job. My wife read it and said it was like the two of you had shared notes lol. There's a lot of hype around steroids, much of it way over blown. But tren is one that should be feared by the young and respected by the old because much of the hype it garners can be pretty accurate.
Tame the beast brother! I just had to figure out what my triggers were and catch them. I got a handle on it eventually. I'd give it up if I had to so you are doing the right thing. I think the wifey is right. It's about being self aware
Well as you know she's pregnant right now which has her hormones all over the place as well. Definitely a good move for me to not run any tren at least until the baby gets here. I can't see myself letting it defeat me, not from the mental aspect anyways.
I'm planning some high dosed test only cycles in my future. I think it's the smart move. Back to basics!
I'm thinking the same thing. Maybe throw in some eq, but I'm definitely planning for a long estered cycle covering the summer.
nice added write up for the community bell ! im glad everything is good now with it :-) i completely agree.
AnonThnx Boots. ;-)
Srry I kinda wrote a story, lol