posted Thu, 02/07/2013 - 05:12
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A question for all the MMA fighters or athletes out there
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I trained MMA pretty seriously a few years back. I was a competitive amateur fighter. Long story short: my tibia had a serious fracture along with a hematoma and neve damage. Took me out of the ring for a while and I never jumped back in. Fast forward a few years, I started aas. Now my questions are: 1) will I not be able to gain muscle and strength while performing this kind of cardio (obviously dietary changes will be made, with an increase in calories)? 2) when I go into pct in a month and a half, will the cardio involved exaserbate the inevitable muscle loss (dietary changes and excess calories included)? Thanks to all who respond. This is something I love, but I don't want it to crush my other love
PCT is my biggest worry here
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According to your stats you're currently just under light heavyweight (205) in MMA! I wouldn't concern myself with weight in your position. I managed to maintain a 175lb body throughout my fighting career. Note I was not an MMA fighter. It's very possible to maintain weight with diet (caloric intake, increments and compound choice). But I see no point in your shoes. You're on the cusp of heavyweight now. Just pack it on! But to answer your question, during pct, caloric intake and training will be vital to keeping or losing gains.
I have been in positions where I held on to a little too much weight for too long pre-fight and the methods used to make weight really affected strength and endurance during the bout. If you're planning on fighting at 185 then you should be dieting hard right now. Your stats say you're 200lbs. If you could drop 10lbs while maintaining strength, you could safely shed the extra 5 just for the weigh in and step I to the cage around 190. This will take more work than anything. Both in diet and training. AAS may not be the best move for you right now. I don't know if you have a time line goal or not but if you plan on jumping in anytime soon, stay away from the juice. I know for a fact that if you get into fighting shape natty. Once you find a comfortable class and get some solid performances under your belt, AAS will be a more effective training tool later. Just my $0.02
Definitely solid advice for a guy jumping into a fight soon. Although, right now I'm talking about jumping into rigorous training. I am going to do a fight at some point this year, but I'm going to spend a few months grinding away at all of the rust that's built up over my skillset. You did some fights yourself? I would peg you for a boxer, what's your combat sport?
Hahaha I like your think brother! But I made the mistake at fighting above my weight once, will never do it again. I'm just shy of light heavyweight, but that means I would compete at a solid, lean 185. I would love to take a fight at 205... But that is only going to happen after a lot of ass-busting. I'm going to jump back into it and shoot my caloric intake up 500 cals to start, I'll play with it fro there. I would love to be a solid 220 and cut/dehydrate to 205 and step into the ring looking/fighting like a beast. Thank to again to all that gave advise
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CleyonHere's my .02 If your goal is to be a great fighter, then don't worry what weight class you are in. Like people have said before, diet is going to be an overiding factor on whether or not you can keep weight up with the increased physical/dcardiovascular activity. Other than that, use juice to improve your strength and speed. The more muscle mass you put on the harder it is when a fight goes long. Big muscles take a lot of blood and oxygen.
For sure bud. I'll bump that caloric intake up (mostly in the form of carbs and protein) and keep on lifting hard, explosively, and heavy. I would love to be able to compete at light heavyweight if I can keep my endurance high (a relatively solid 215-220 pre-weigh in procedures).
look at alistair overeem and brock lensor , i have no idea what ur saying. u gotta eat more if ur hitting more cardio.
i see overeem train at the gym throughout the week....the guy is a genetic freak without even touching the juice
Ive trained mma a few years back but the answer is pretty simple if you burn more calories than you consume you will lose weight and strength also depends on your metabolism.. I remember them training days were at times brutal and i would have a hard time gaining weight. You would have to eat a shit ton of food to put the pounds on. Especially if your naturally lean.
Exactly what he said,
"if you burn more calories than you consume you will lose weight and strength"
I still train with professional fighters in MMA, I also have dedicated more time to bodybuilding and I have had a massive overhaul to my diet. The diet I am on I learned solely from the bodybuilders on this site and I have gained 20 hard lbs whille still going hard with MMA. I have to say though the way I eat is like a full time job in and of it self. It is not always easy.
You're absolutely right, BUT I have one real concern: PCT. we all lose some mass in pct, but will 2-3 hours of cardio even with a heavy meal before and adequate nutrition after do some damage to my mass? It sounds like everyone answered that for me though. Thanks for the responses guys
In pct we will lose mass no matter what with the exception of great genetics. But it is like math the more calories your burn the more you must replace with good calories. The issue with MMA training is the workouts can vary greatly in what we burn. So you have to know your body in order to compensate it correctly. And there with still be so give or take when I train harder in MMA, I definitely lose size. When I pull back I gain it. And I have they ways and means to eat whatever I want. One trick I have learned that has helped me and I don't know the science behind it but when I eat a large carb meal after my MMA training I hold more fullness and size the next day then if I don't eat it.
Exactly what I wanted to hear- with quality nutritional precautions, my PCT losses wont be greatly exacerbated. You train with some pros? Idk if I can ask who without sacrificing some privacy...
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