posted Sun, 01/13/2013 - 02:05
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Major depression after 3 days PCT
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Just finnished cycle of:
500mg test e weekly for 12 weeks
anavar 75mg ed week 9-12
adex 0,25 up until pct start
PCT is clomid 100/100/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20
3 days in and I cant see the light.
Please help me
My stats are 210 lbs at 6"
Im guessing its the clomid that is causing the depression, any thoughts?
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Was just reading that proviron may give that psychological help after cycle plus it will raise sex drive, may that is what you need to get a better mood.
Hi cpbig. I think it probably is the clomid causing it. Along with low-T.
I have had my share of depression. I can tell you that keeping the body and mind active will help. Keep your mind clear. No staying in bed or indoors. Even if you don't want to do so - fight it and go out. And interact with people.
Also, intense cardio increases brain-derived neurotrophic factor, stimulating neurogenesis, which is the mechanism by which anti-depressants work.
Keep us updated on your progress. Good day, bro!
AnonI was in the same boat as you. I found that by taking the clomid/nolva at night I felt alot less depressed. But I have no facts to support this, this is purely my experience. Which also included hot flashes shortly after taking clomid.
Also ditch the adex and get armoasin.
Most importantly..
HANG IN THERE BRO!
IronCladdsome good advice below, especially its temporary. Be strong!
anyways, it is becoming a common practice nowadays to run aromasin during cycle and through out pct. One of the reasons for this is it has suicide inhibitor effects also. I ran it through the last half of my cycle an through pct, no depression after this past cycle. i am a bit amazed. g/l my friend and stay strong! brighter days are coming!!
Suicide inhibitor effect? For someone who is depressed? Makes sense.
Optimize your dosing protocol;
Here's when I dose;
-AI's > Aromasin: In the Morning
-PCT > Clomid: Throughout the day
-PCT > Nolva: At Night
Why
Free testosterone has reached a peak in the late morning until around mid-day when the sun has risen, this is why you wake up with 'morning wood'); so to capitalise upon the daily peaks in your free testosterone, I dose my aromasin in the morning. This will prevent any peaks in my estrogen throughout the day (since its half life is ~27 hours) and it will also further increase the amount of free testosterone in my system, since aromasin removes the binded testosterone from your sex hormone binging globulin (SHBG).
I dose my clomid throughout the day, because clomid is highly surpressive, it gets me emotional if i take a high dose all at once. Also i want to keep my blood levels as stable as possible to prevent any further sides.
My nolvadex dose is taken before i go to bed at night, since this is when estrogen is peaked in the human body. Nolvadex is an anti-estrogen, so while im sleeping, the estrogen is under control, which also aids my testosterone peaks the next morning.
Thank you!
I will try this out, for the past 3 days I have taken both the nolva and clomid mid day.
Is there any need for me to take adex during the pct aswell, as i dont have aromasin?
AnonAdex binds to the estrogen receptors and is only beneficial as long as its active.. Where as aromasin is a suicidal ai which means it will bind to the estrogen and prevent it doing its nastyness! It will help prevent estrogen rebound and this is a major part of post cycle blues.
If you're US domestic, you can get some aro for fairly cheap and fairly quick. If you were using aro you'd be able to drop the dosage on the nolva which may help with the blues. Send me a FR and I'll point you in the direction of a fast research chem source
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/ai-as-needed-...
well atm im in the UK, so that might be hard.
shirlsguyCheck my pics out, it will lead you to a UK domestic that carries it and does not mess about. As example, I ordered last night and I will place a bet I have photos before the weekend. Feel free to FR for more info.
Only advice i could give you is to keep telling yourself that this is only temporary and its not going to last forever. Try and take the clomid before bed too that always helped me.