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Does anyone know if its OK to mix two different types of oil based gear into a single vial?
I've asked this elsewhere but no one seems to know for sure. I figure with how many brewers we have here someone might know.
I was thinking Test P 100 @ 6mL with tren a 100 @ 4mL.
Before too many people jump in I say these things:
1.) Why do I want to do this instead of just mixing them in the syringe? Because I'm lazy and don't want to go through the hassle. If your going to try to convince me otherwise please have a for sure answer on why mixing in the same vial won't work.
2.) I know that when you mix the two in syringe they sepperate. If you shake it vigorously they will eventually become homogeneous. Tried it: it worked. I'm willing to do this every time if necessary but so far its stayed homogeneous even after sitting for a day.
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I double checked with Buff Badger from shops-mart since I'm using his gear. He said that its totally viable to put them together in a separate sterile vial. So a real chemist has weighed in finally. I'm not crazy after all.
Just a little update for everyone.
The tren a and prop I put together have stayed homogeneously mixed for 5 days now without agitation. My current cycle is coming along nicely. Lifts and weight are up and day to day hormone levels seem to be pretty stable. I would recommend this to anyone who wants to consolidate their gear to one easily manageable draw. Just be sure on you dosages. I imagine if you weren't very familiar with the compounds you are running ore mixing could go wrong very quickly and gear can be an expensive thing to waste. However, if you have really standard doses for your cycles grab some 10cc barrels and maybe some 20mL jugs and go to town. Its seriously cut down on my prep work for day to day injections.
((Sigh)) just because your oils are mixed homogeneously doesn't mean your hormones have. If you are really this lazy why didn't you just get a blend (which is put together by someone who knows what the fuck they are doing) Are you lazy and cheap?
You are one of these guys who comes seeking advice and cherry picks the answer he wanted to hear only to do what you wanted anyway. Then you come back and recommend other dumb asses be as lazy as you as if you are contributing?
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So do hormones separate in solution by molecular weight? If the oils mix wouldn't that mean that the hormones are mixed. If not how do labs do it?
yes, they are different molecular weights.... The labs do it because they have ppl that are actually educated in molecular biology... You do know that there is actual chemistry involved here, right?
Right. I know there's chemistry involved here. Do you? So far you haven't given me one chemistry or fluid physics reason this will not work you've just came in hear and flamed my methods just because you don't agree with them. Either 1.) you don't know and/or 2.) you don't care to help.
just do what you want lil brother, thats the plan anyway
I'm not a chemist bro... I'm also not an electrician or a plumber so I LEAVE THAT SHIT TO THE PPL WHO KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE DOING!
You know what. I totally respect that. I'm not a chemist either. I'm just trying to find ways to make life easier for everyone in the community. Maybe I'm right maybe I'm wrong but I'm trying.
I find this thread quite humorous.
Ummm... so will it work or not? lol...
Oh, no? Ok, I'm gonna do it anyway. hahahahhaa!
Just because the oils are mixed doesn't mean the drugs are. One day you could be pulling 90% test, the next day you could be pulling 5% test. You can't see the hormones, how can you measure them? Chemists cook the shit and mix properly with scientific techniques, or some shit, I dunno, I'm a friggin mechanic.
Thanks everyone for your responses.
I guess this needs to be clarified even further.
Assuming all things being equal will they mix and stay homogeneous.
^ I just need a straight answer here. If you care to elaborate on why or why not the physics and/chemistry will or won't work that would be great.
Technically you can mix oil based compounds with oil based compounds completely fine. Test P = oil Tren A = oil. Can I garuntee that you will make everything 100% sterile or dowse it properly? No. But the compounds will mix just fine as long as the base is the same
That's pretty much all I need to know.
I don't worry about sterility or dosing. Pulling a set dose from a vial and putting it in another vial has got to be safer and more accurate than the old days of cooking up fina pellets.
THIS says it all... I don't need your stats and cycle history at this point. You are obviously a kid or an idiot who is just going to do what he wants (and fail miserably)
Laziness is one thing but disregard for ones own personal well being is another
Good luck in your enderavors and hope you don't fuck yourself up too badly
Does that mean it will work or not?
You can put anything together. Oil based with oil based and water with water. You can mix 6 different compounds in a syringe. If you can handle all that oil. Mix it up.
I'm not mixing them in a syringe, I'm mixing them in a vial.
Stats? Cycle history? My guess would be that if you find mixing compounds in the syringe "tedious" you are probably too young and/or too early in your cycle history to be using tren anyway. "Lazy" is the hallmark of failure in this game my man.
...and you will NOT be properly dosed if you mix compounds in a vial
Why would a draw from a vial with mixed compounds not be properly dosed?
Yes it is 100% ok to mix 2 different componds in the same syrenge. I do it all the time. Rite now im mixing test e and deca together. I also use TNE and b12 together in the same syrenge and the difference ther is b12 is water based and TNE is oil so they do sepperate which is perfectly 100% fine also. "I was thinking Test P 100 @ 6mL with tren a 100 @ 4mL." 10ml at a time with short esters??? I hope thats a typo lol.
Same vial bud. Not same syringe. Thanks though.
OK I read that totally wrong. So why not pre mix 2 weeks worth of syrenges at once instead of mixing in a vial? I don't see why either way would be a problem. Sources mix gear in vials.
Bro, src's don't just throw two compounds in a vial and shame it up?! Seriously...
Well... I guess they brew them mixed. Not mix them from vial to vial. I see where your going with this and your probably rite. They might not be properly mixed unless they are brewed that way.
Mixing in syringes is the tedious part. Its the part I want to avoid. I don't think there is an issue with mixing in vials either but many people seem to be on the fence about it. I was curious what experienced chemists had to say about it.