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Thinking about doing a 600mg triple test stacked with 100-200mg Equipoise a week. The triple test is 250mg Testosterone Enanthate, 250mg Testosterone Cypionate, & 100mg Testosterone Propionate. will split it into 2 injections each week wondering if any one has done a cycle similar to this and what they experienced? finished my first cycle of 500mg test e 4 weeks ago pct is going good i have maintained my 9kg gains so far. How long should i wait after i finish pct to start again?
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Glad i stayed off this one. You got all the boys i trust hete telling you how to do yhis properly and you're pissing on everyones leg. Your loss.
I'm staying out of this 1. It's Sunday and I don't need any stress today. I get enough during the week.lol
Bro these guys are trying to help you!! They are concerned for you. You need to slow your roll or you could be running into problems further down the track. They may seem arrogant to you, only because they are only showing you the same level of respect you are giving them right now in return. Put the arrogance/attitude aside, sit back and listen and take in everything they have to offer.. I GUARANTEE you will not find more knowledgeable guys on any forum in the one place. These gurus know their shit! Just remember how long they've been at this for.. We aussies gotta look out for one another mate!
cdaddy7+1 AussieDan for having the right attitude and realizing we give a shit about u guys
My pct cant be that bad I had maintained my exact weight that I gained when on it.....fuck sake
cdaddy7To go ahead and shut this debate down....your standard PCT should look just EXACTLY like this, not your witches brew...in honestly you are very lucky u haven't jacked some shit up at this point.....STANDARD PCT:
Sart PCT 15 days after last shot of test
Clomid 100/100/50/50 ---those are mgs per day
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20 ----those are mgs per day
K thanks for that, no access to nolva so couldnt have used it any way. finish my current pct this coming saturday i am taking 0.25mg of clomid each day then completely stop. What one person seems to think is a good pct another thinks is shit. I pretty much followed this to the T accept for the IGF-1 and dbol. http://www.isteroids.com/steroids/beginner-steroid-cycles-I.html
cdaddy7My man there are plenty of reputable SRCs on this site that have nolva, it's not an option in PCT its a must bc of its single effect on the pituitary and LH production...It helps the clomid to bring your natty production back...they have a synergistic effect together...You will get back to normal but using only Clomid, don't have any expectations for it to be quick and get ready for PCD bro
also yeah there are many sources but not many that are good for shipping to australia ;)
PCD post cycle depression? If i was to feel that wouldnt i feel that after a couple weeks not 5 weeks after my last shot? Also i have maintained my 9kg gains and all strength gains in my lifts besides a few kg drop in my chest press. Also have a look at that link i put up man it shows the cycle i followed.
zewiArimidex doesn't hold on to estor has so as you stop taking it stops..
If you PCT is that link.. You will be fine during PCT but after words estor will shoot back up.. = PCD..
cdaddy7Thank you Z...I tried to explain that to him...That is not a very good 1st cycle IMHO bc of the DBOL but the PCT makes it even worse with those factors to consider and the Arimidex doses way too much on cycle IMHO
cdaddy7I would have never encouraged that cycle and esp Arimidex in PCT...but you went with it and u say no problems so it worked for you....Everone is different for sure but that does not mean PCD won't kick in just beware...You could def have some estro rebound with a PCT cycle like that and I'm sure my vet brothers will agree
hey man didn't quite understand zewis comment can you elaborate for me?
zewiwas on my phone
Arimidex doesn't hold on to estor and will let go of estor when you stop.
If your PCT is that link.. You will be fine during PCT but after words estor will shoot back up because your estor will shoot leading to PCD
cdaddy7Exactly, that's why Arimidex great for on cycle, not for PCT...Aromasin is the choice for PCT...BECAUSE of the whole estrogen rebound factor!!!!
or....ill not get pointlessly depressed like a lil bitch and just know that my estrogen is high for a while and deal with it. How long after i stop taking adex will i apparently get depressed....lol thanks for the info fellas
cdaddy7You may not bro, it's just a high probability...i promise you this either way you will be fine and you can change it up for the next round
Try to keep an open mind and remind yourself that you do not know everything. Take it day by day. Try to learn from people that have been there. Also do the research to back up what you learn to make sure it is accurate. I know its hard but it will be worth it in the long run. I read through eroids in hope to learn something. If I post something and people point out that I was wrong I thank them and correct it. You may get away with doing things wrong but what if you do not get away with it? Is it worth the risk to you? Sure isn't to me . I am in my late 30's and it wont be long before I need TRT do to old age. I still will not risk having to be on it now. I do everything I can to prevent it. There is a few great threads here on pct. Check them out and learn for yourself why people are telling you what they are.
I understand that you are going to do what you want to do. I was young once and I wouldn't listen to people either. I wish you luck in your fucked up cycle and I only ask one thing from you. I would like for you to keep a log that way you can have a detailed history to show others how not to run a cycle. A lot of us have ran stupid cycles and we share our history to help others not make the same mistake. One day you will want to do the same so please keep a record. Thank you and good luck to you
zewisWife"The triple test is 250mg Testosterone Enanthate, 250mg Testosterone Cypionate, & 100mg Testosterone Propionate. will split it into 2 injections each week"
Why two times a week--the test P will be a waste. why not a 1/2 ml monday tuesday thursday friday--or EOD to take full effect of the test p.. Just my thoughts.. And eq should be ran at a min of 400 IMO.
The prop dose is so small its not worthwhile. He could simply add prop to the mix when he's more advanced. Keeping it simple is best for the new guys. Similar argument is for sustanon and dosing. Folks wanna multipin sust for that teeny lil prop dose but the problem is thosr ling esyers have a large buildup effect. Again, imo...cureable with prop.
cdaddy7It's that blend thing again Fast but the Cyp and e mgs are making 500 so the prop is really not calculated in the mix I explained it to him below bc he read it wrong
I hear ya. Was answering the question of making small shots eod or ed. So lil prop yhat it isnt worth the hassle. Some of these new blends are outta control....no real thought in the brewing.
So your suggesting I do 1200mg of test a week?
cdaddy7No hardhead she is trying to say that the prop, due to its half life which is 3 days, and they way you are using it....the prop in the mix is useless bc u will not maintain a steady prop blood level unless u inject it like that which means u would have to take your split dose of 600 (300mg x's 2) and divide the 600mg dose into 4 day (600mg/4days=150mg dose per shot)....the total amount of prop in each shot broken down that way is only 25mg per shot....which equals 100mg a week total...still not goin to be effective dose no matter how u take it....so for the sake of the correct math you need not even count the prop bc It's not goin to b an impact in the mix.....she knows exactly what she's talking about...for prop to be taken it would have to b taken in the frequency lined out and the dosage of prop would have to be 100mg each shot.... U follow me?
yeah right so basically if i go ahead and use that mixture i will have to get a extra vial of prop to inject more frequent for it to be effective minus the prop thats in the other vial?
cdaddy7Now I know who taught Zewi everything he knows ;)
zewishe knows who taught who... ;)
cdaddy7Don't hate, pimp....u still my boy considering.....they say behind a good man is a great woman
zewisWifeyeah he likes it from behind...lmao ;)
cdaddy7Now Thas wazzup!!!!!
I have a feeling you're not old enough to be doing aas at all since you won't answer that question. But I can tell you're stubborn and will anyway. So now for your own good, you need to listen to the advice these people are giving you.
NOBODY wants to wait more than 3 months off between cycles, but it's necessary.
Hopefully your strange pct has worked for you and you will naturally restart and regain your hormone levels. Get some tribulus and take that everyday.
Arimidex should have been taken on cycle until the start of pct, not during pct.
Nolva should have been taken with clomid.
Forget you've done a cycle, other than time off. Consider your next cycle your first. I fucked up. So that's my plan. I didn't have everything I needed, not enough test, used a blend to start, no ai's, not enough nolva or clomid. So I'm waitng the time I was on (17 weeks) and then starting my "first" cycle. Stash that blend you've got, get 3 vials of test e, aromasin, nolva and clomid.
Took adex when on as well.....also couldn't get my hands on nolvadex so clomid had to do
During your time off, the next 3 months or so, and read everything you can on this site. Look at every topic and read every sticky. Read cycle logs and the critiques from the vets. Some responses may seem like these guys are dicks, but their trying to help. They just get frustrated when people jump into the forum and ask questions without doing any research. Good luck!
UFOHow old are you dude? First of all these guys are right, your pct is no good. And what stands out to me the most is you are taking WAY TOO MUCH adex. Your estrogen is prob shot unless you have a bunk AI but normal protocol for arimidex is more like .5mg a day, not 2.5mg.
Second cycle idea is pretty terrible too. No point at all in adding the prop if you are only injecting twice a week. Prop needs to be pinned EOD at least to maintain stable blood levels. And unless you have both already theres no point in mixing test e and c since they are almost identical.
All this info is right here on this site in front of you bud, just take a week and read the stickies on each forum, then you will understand why pple flamed you for your "cycle" ideas.
Also the test is a mixture in the one vial it's 600mg/10ml vial for $64usd
Oh shit...my bad I meant 0.25mg is what in taking lol just a quarter of 1mg pill sort of hard to make the quarters perfect tho
I got it from isteroids it was a proper thing from the site for a beginner cycle not the forums
cdaddy7I would like to know who designed that PCT? The doses are not even correct for what u took. No reputable vet signed off on such. Clearly evident u know Jack shit on what u are doing and looks like ur doin mighty fine in masterminding trainwreck fuck cycle #2. U need to drop the ego and let a vet help u before you fuck up some more and really do some damage to yourself and your nuts
AnonHello buddy, second cycle should be test e or c with a prop kicker and taper, the taper is optional. You wil like the prop kick. Time on + pct = time off
So 12 week cycle and 5 week pct so 17 weeks of are you sure? I don't wanna wait that long
Anonx2 what mandearpig said bro.
buddy, its a matter of staying healthy. give your body time to recover production of natural T. you dont want to damage your hpta permanently, but it is gunna happen if you are taking exogenous test for an extended period without a good break from it.
X2.... JUST HOPE AND PRAY HE LISTENS TO SOME SOLID ADVICE FOR A CHANGE!
also couldnt get my hands on any nolva
meh its worked well enough for me i dont care about being perfect
Thats the worst answer you could ever give!... cleary shows you dont give a fuck and truly dont deserve the great info that these members are willing to give you for free..i suggest you grow the fuck up and come back with a better attitude more in tune for learning because at the moment you are just pissing into the wind!
PERFECTION IS THE NAME OF THE GAME HERE,NOT CHILDISH FUCK ABOUTS!
Looks like i was right here!...this thread has gone nowhere on the learning curve of AAS usage..Looks like the guy was going to do his own thing all along...He just posted to prove to prove his own ignorance...thanks for trying guys but at the end of the day it looks like HE new best!
Bro your pct is horid. Put down the pin and do research before you stick again.