Adding Winstrol to cycle
1-3 Dianabol 40mg ED
1-10 Deca 400mg EW
1-12 Cypionate 600mg EW
5-10 Tren A 300 EW
Above was my intended course but have read forums here and done research elsewhere and running Deca and Tren (which I'd done before) seems to not only be extremely hard on sides but also completely pointless as Tren cancels out the Deca as they both fight for the same receptors. I'll be starting my fourth week in a few days and have just ordered (which I should have in a weeks time) 10mg X 100 TABS of Winny. Because of me going on holidays in mid August (which will involve quite a bit of drinking) I only really have 4 weeks tu run the Winny as I don't want to be drinking and taking an oral. Is four weeks long enough to run Winny or.....? What are the doses I should run? Do you take in divided doses through the day/with meals etc? I have never this compound before so all inputs will be much appreciated, thanks!
Oh I'm running....
.5 Armidex every three days
500ius HCG weekly
Nolva and Clomid will be PCT
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naguib123Winny gave me tendonitis, i honestly dont see the point of using it, it doesnt burn fat, just makes you harder temporary. its good for competitions thats it, there are better orals like anavar
Might just smash out the treadmill over the next five weeks and really clean up my diet to perfection which I'm not far from now, would be my best bet.
With the cycle u already have going it's plenty. Also deciding to add a new compound mid cycle is a bad habit to get into. Research a plan, write out that plan and stick to it. Self discipline on cycle is so damn hard when we let ourselves get a little greedy. We end up wanting it all right now. This cycle. This game is a lifetime of gains and cycles. Take ur time brother and get the most out of what u got going on!
I know what you're saying and you're 100% right. I was planning on running Tren as a cutter and now that I've done countless research (I know I should have really done this prior to starting) on running Deca and Tren together I've had to go for the option of dropping the Tren and now I'm left missing a quality hardener on the cycle which I find essential on cycles. This is why I was going to opt for Winny as a Tren substitute.
I would say you got enough going on already and dont need to add anything else! if anything extend the tren to week 13 and call that good.
I wasn't going to run the Tren this time around because I've heard using Deca and Tren is pretty much a waste as they are both 19 nors and Tren basically wins the battle when fighting to bind to receptors which is why the Deca pretty much goes to waste when running both compounds together. That's why I was going to run Winny instead of Tren and just use the Tren another time around.
Not really sure what ur experience level is and history with winny. I like the fact that u want to drop the tren over the deca. I'm of the opinion that before u run tren u should have some cycles with deca first just to see what ur body does with 19nors. I'm sorry if this has been said already but what are ur goals for this cycle? Winny should have a specific purpose in ur cycle to help u achieve ur goals and not in ur cycle just because everyone else is running it. I have had success with Test Prop the last 4 wks of my cycle. It gives a tight look to u while boosting ur levels for a sprint to the finish of ur cycle. I would pick the prop over the winny. Just my opinion bro
I've done a lot of course over the years but unfortunately I was completely ignorant about it all and basically did what my trainier told me too which consisted of running compounds like Tren and Deca together and the scariest thing is I had never used any PCT or really even knew about them. I put way to much trust in my trainer and assumed he knew what he was doing which was a bad mistake. Oh well better late than never hey. My goal is to gain hard looking quality muscle. Obviously I want the bulk but my main goal is achieving a really dense and ripped look which is why I thought of running Winny. Basically quality over quantity is my main priority. I'm on my fourth week now and have got results past expectations but just want to really add a hardener into the mix. Is Prop used for a hardener also? I have zero experience with Prop. All i know it has a extremely short life so constant jabs are necessary which is why it's never really appealed to me.
It's my personal favorite ester of test. Test is so versatile that it can be a bulking agaent or a cutting agaent a lean diet with little carbs has a great impact on whether you lean out or not self discipline in diet and cardio mixed with the right workout regimen is what determines results. You said you've run winny plenty in the past. Did you have any issues with dryness in the joints? Any issues with the DHT? Hair loss, swollen prostate which causes frequent urination and long slow urinations. Winny is a very good drying compound meant for guys looking to cut before a contest. Or in some cases once a level of density is reached it adds some nice strength as well. Imo it is underrated as a strength gainer. But it is by far over used by guys who are not in the kind of shape to need a compound like winny. You have guys like Viking who hated the stuff cuz it dries his joints out way too much. And guys like Bodybuilder who loves winny a lot. Both are in great shape and have loads of experience but it's the effects it has on their bodies. Honestly I would go with the prop over the winny. It's a great ester of test and is used quite often as a taper. You can also use the Prop taper to head into PCT 2days after last prop injection. Don't be afraid tenpin bro. It's a part of life in this game. Ask around about prop. Most guys who use it love it.
I'm just going to really smash the cardio until I get where I wat to be because essentially I should get that look I'm going for just by dropping 3-4 percent body fat. I have mates that love stacking with Prop and I've read nothing but good things about it so it's definitely on my to do list! Thanks for the knowledge bro! Peace
I have taken small doses of winny "20mg a day" and did notice a diff...if you have a good hairline I would watch the winny..with the other stuff your taking it could be deadly to your hairline. Good luck bro:-)
Hahhaa I had a mate that used barely any gear and pretty much had his hair fall out at 28 years old. 12 months later he got a hair transplant and never touched another compound lol! I don't seem to have that problem, well not yet anyway lol how long did you run Winny for? I'm thinking 4-5 weeks which under my circumstances is all I could run it for is maybe not enough. I know the standard length is 6-8 but was thinking of using a dose of 40mg for 5 weeks.