posted Tue, 12/27/2011 - 19:19
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I'm looking forward to starting my Prop cycle
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I'm about 2 weeks away from tapering down to 100 eod on prop. My size gains from the sust/cyp/var have been pleasing, and I'm loosing bodyfat nicely. The bad- I can see the water retention in my face and neck, as long as some in my abdominal area. I know that after I stop the sust/cyp combo and move to the prop I'll stop holding so much, and see the fruits of my labor a little better. I'm wondering though if any of you have noticed "spot retention" when loading on a cut?
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I'm bringing this thread back to thank you guys for the advice. It helped, and cleared up all of my symptoms. On track now...for anyone else, there's great advice on this forum!
tread-mJust run your AI for a couple weeks. Sauce and cyp and prop? Yeah I'd say you're carrying water, its probably a lot more water than you think, get ready to piss like a race horse every few minutes for a couple days!lol. You don't need all that test brother, a much milder test run with a second compound such as deca next time will serve you much better.
AI? Call me dumb here, but the acronyms get me sometimes. I'll kill the sust/cyp when I start the prop, and yea, I was thinking that I may be going hard...but you know as well as I do this shit's not accurately dosed so I wanted to GO BIG as I WENT HOME!!!! HA HA. I'll be stepping on stage in May, and my timing so far is on with where I'd like to be at 20 weeks. I can't wait to shed some of this water though, and see the fun appear.
Nasty81Natearomatase inhibitors
Gotcha....my clomid and nolvadex
tread-mDo you not have an AI on hand? As Nate said, you have post cycle "blockers" essentially. You need to actually reduce estrogen which will require an AI. You will benefit from the prop jump coming off the long ester anyway but you should always have an AI on hand for water/estrogen reduction and gyno control. I don't know your age but running gear it won't take many years of running high water for it to make your blood pressure very sensitive and vulnerable to blowing through the roof, even to dangerous levels without proper understanding in controlling it. As well, it will depreciate your health which is the opposite of your goals....I hate to be that guy but, this is serious shit brother, you have to take it serious if you want to be in this game for an extended period and remain healthy. Sorry for the preach but you need to hear these things from us , we take care of each other. Its not always in a pretty way but we do it...lol
I was always under the impression that the Clomid and Nolva would be suffice...but this makes sense. And after further research I get it now and owe you a HUGE thanks for breaking it down. Looks like I see the AI's in my new future.
Nasty81Nateno, Armidex and Aromasin are AIs (aromatose inhibitors). Clomid and Nolvadex are SERMS (Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators).
Do I need to be running both of these Armidex and Aromasin at the same time while injecting?
Nasty81NateYou need to have either one on hand in case any sides start to pop up. Sore or itchy nipples is the first sign usually, I just pinch my nips every morning when I wake up, if it doesn't turn me on thats when I start getting concerned...lol....but really just have one of them in hand just in case. I prefer armidex, I'll take .25mg EOD if needed.