posted Tue, 12/13/2011 - 08:50
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Second cycle advise
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I started my second cycle 2 weeks ago consisting of the following:
Test e 250mg 2x week,12 weeks
D-bol 30mg ED 4 weeks
I received some Deca recently and want to add it to this cycle.What do ya think?
I'm 50 years old, 5'10',195 and about 15%Bf or less(not entirely sure).
My first cycle was Test Prop. only for 12 weeks earlier this year(May,June,July).
Any input is welcome. Thanks
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tread-mReading your "want lasting results" comment below. At 50 the only way you will have lasting results is to blast and cruise in all likelyhood. A low level test or test/hgh cruise between cycles will bring your levels back to what they were in your 20's and help reverse that clock a bit as well. At 50 to just run a couple cycles a year with no hrt is a much less effective roller coaster than when you were in your 20's and 30's. Even someone just cruising with no cycles will see much better long term results than you will without the cruise and their health will be much better and much more stable. Hrt changes your life rather than changing the few weeks a year you run your cycles only to fall back off the cliff.
I had the Dr. check my test before my first cycle back in April.It was 266. Doc said it was fine for my age.I really don't agree.So what is this blast and cruise? I've heard it before.Could you expand on that and give me an example of what a year might look like?
well the blast could be 5 or 600mg of test a week and the cruise part may be 200-300mg per week! is this what you meant or did your question mean something differenT?
AnonI think three hundred is a bit high on the cruise part.. remember you get residual effects and buildup so I d start conservative 100-150 and adjust up as needed.. always easier to go up than down.
Yeah,That's what I wanted to Know.I was hoping for a bit more explanation on the blast and cruise as I may not be the only one in the dark on the subject.I've heard it's a life time commitment.It sure would be nice to have a Dr. on board to guide along the way.Reading alot at the dinosaur lounge and finding much info.I'm willing to take the plunge but want to have my eyes fully open as I do so.
are you on trt mate?
plz get blood done after to check your natty levels out..
the lder you are the harder it is to bounce back bud.
you could be eligible for trt
AnonNo, wait to see how you react to the test e, what gains you will make, what sides you get. You add that deca you won't have any ideas whats what. If you do decide to run it then make sure you've got the proper ratio of test to deca. Quite frankly what's the hurry? you are probably running test all year round and can do more frequent cycles..?
Thanks for your comments. I think I'm gonna run conservative on this second cycle and see what comes about. There is plenty of time to get used to the gear and assess how my body likes it. I've read some of your posts and like the concept of going slow and easy,not to be in a hurry.I want lasting,quality results from my efforts. And I really don't want to go forward blindly and end up with irreversible consequences.The gear will be there when I'm ready.Staying the coarse and enjoying the ride.And I was hoping I was gonna look like Frank Zane by June.
you can still throw in that deca, the ONLY THING is you would need to run test at least 2 weeks longer than deca(if you were to run 12 weeks of deca)to make sure you dick still works. strecthing into a 16 week cycle. would be a great cycle.
I was curious about this:
• What about moving the D-Bol later in the cycle? What's the advantage of having the D-Bol in the beginning, middle and end of a cycle?
• I heard that taking 40mg of D-Bol on workout days and 20mg on days you rest. Thoughts?
What are the advantages of taking your 4 weeks of D-Bol during the beginning, middle and end of the cycle?
dbol is great for "kickstarting" a cycle. It takes effect almost immediately vs the test e that won't be at full strength untill roughly week 4-5. its useful at anytime though. not sure about your second question.
my next cycle is
week 1-4 test p eod 100mg
week 5-9 dbol 50mg ed
week 1-14 test e 600mg wk
week 1-12 deca 400mg wk
i plan on using the dbol when the test and deca are in full swing the synergy is amazing!
Since your already two weeks in I would save the deca for your next cycle. Deca should be ran for a minimum of 12 weeks. Besides test and d-Bol is a great second cycle bro.