posted Mon, 10/24/2011 - 07:27
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When to expect Anavar to kick in
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I started taking some Anavar about 8 days ago @ 60mg ed, but did not notice much, other than a slight spike in BP and a little dehydration. But the dehydration only lasted about a day, so it could have been a fluke. I upped the dose to 80mg 3 days ago to see if it made a differnce. No improvements in pumps so far, we'll see what tonight brings. I'm thinking I've got several bags of chalk. :-(
I'll be switching brands RSN for comparison. Anything else I can look for? It has no taste BTW, but I understand that it has no taste anyway.
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I'll send someone 2 weeks worth of Chem-Tec so they can tell me how effective it is. I'm currently running a Test/Deca/Winny cycle so I can't find out for myself right now.
AnonDue to kick off with Var in 3 weeks... if you want a guinea pig for Chem-Tec let me know... ;o)
Am currently debating whether to run with Lixus or Pro Chem... 50mg a day... throwing it in to the end of my cycle (16 weeks in total) for a 6 week period along with 70mg ED of Test Prop in the final 3 weeks.
What brand of var did you use at first? What you using now?
The original Var was Z-Labs, the new brand is MediStar. I'm definitely stiff with the new Var, but I can't say it's doing much for my strength. Vascularity is a little better (legs and forearms), but it's making me thinner in all the wrong places. I still can't lose the pouch, probably should have dropped the BF a bit lower to start and the age does not help either.
misterXwhen using anavar at 40mg or 50mg daily I hear his insane pumps after only one week
40 did not phase me, 60 was mildly annoying and 80 is fun :-). Now if only I felt some gains.
phil113kgOh ok, sorry i am french. ok i have a contest next year during the third week of March and another following in two weeks during April. my cycle ends this month, two weeks after i start my PCT. Now i know that i need some time off but time is the essence. How soon can i restart for a decent prep?
AnonI would wrap it up in two weeks after your current contest and then take 6-8 weeks off and get back on 4-6 weeks before your march contest. As long as you use short esters on your next cycle you will be peaking nicely by the 3rd week of march, either that or blast and cruise. How commited are you to competing?
phil113kgcommitted seriously, i have a coach but he confuses me with this and that.
what are you running right now, depending on stats you could do some cruising to keep the hardness up. You really dont want to be on pct during your contest season.
AnonMaybe a blast and cruise type cycle? although at risk of sounding harsh your cycles could have been planned better to coordinate with your contests..
phil113kgplease explain what a blast and cruise type cycle is
phil113kgit was planned good as far as i know but i went through a bad site and ended up at zero thinking that the stuff was taking it's time to kick in. by the time i was able to rebound i was behind the power curve
Anonthat sucks sorry to hear that.
phil113kgright now i am running rip blend 200 mg EOD. also i am running winstrol 50mg ED. I agree on the pct issue. my planning was thrown off by some bad gear from the onset. I lost 3 month which backed everything up. so what do you mean by cruising?
like girl said, you run a low level while your off to maintain. But this seems like you need a little more help then just cycle advice. If you could please post ALL of your stats, including past cycles, and contest months, not exact dates cause that is too much info for a thread. we can get a better idea of exactly what it is that you need. Also if your coach isnt able to help with this kinda info, i would look into getting a new one.
phil113kgit has been over a year since i last used due to relocating here in france and having to get situated. in the past my cycle would last just three months. normally i would use sust as my base and kick it off with anadroi for the size and strength. this is the first time that i am using the rip blend along with winstrol. i am currntly at 221 pounds at 5'9. I am 39 and my body fat is maybe around 6%. But i am holding some water which might look like fat. i am eating clean as normal. third week in march and the 9th of april are the two contest dates
Anonthe winny should be taking care of the water weight fairly quickly
phil113kgSpeaking of the winny, drying is what it is doing but sometimes i feel like shit and on the edge most of the time. I am not sure if it is the winny alone because i am on a low calorie diet and it is being stacked with the rip blend.
phil113kgit is and i am well pleased with the results so far. i need to note that this cutting phase was to determine my condition for the show. we were going to do the same minus the anadrol for the prep
Anonthe old guys run low levels of test about 200-300mg weekly while they are "off"
LOL, the ol guys. Even @ 200 a week my T-Doc freaks @ my levels so I had to go freelance. Nothing makes me gain like T though, but it bugs the sh*t out of my Tendonitis if I use too much. So I prefer a mixture of T&D while cruising.
AnonI love the deca... one of my favorites to run with some anavar.. but, I m lucky I don't have to run test like you guys do..
phil113kgoh yeah, hmmmm
phil113kgthanks everyone for clearing some things up. i gleaned from this and i have to do some thinking
Try to keep your dosage to around 0.2 mg per pound at least as far as bodybuilding goes
AnonI had a response to anavar within 5 days... the strength increase and pumps were incredible... some so bad I had a difficult time at work and had to cut back on my cardio... I would imagine that 80mg, you should feel something other than dehydrated which the var did not do to me at all. Additionally, at doses that high you are inviting liver toxicity issues but I doubt this stuff is real given your dosages and time frames..
Yeah I'll be dropping back to 60 when my other brand arrives. Although it will be difficult to know if it's the new batch or just the passage of time that made the difference. But I suspect it's crap.
AnonYou don't need that much time ...it's crap... for women on average, we will know what kind of sides we are going to have with in five days.. it is the reason why oral are recommended for us, if the sides are too much we can discontinue and they'll be out of our system in a day or two.
Been on the replacement Var for a few days now (60mg) and wow are my muscles tight, especially my elbows. I did not experience this at all with the previous 'Var'. I've gone to a split dose, since the half life is supposed to be about 9 hours.
It's not affecting my Cardio at all (yet), which I've seen some people complain about. It's making the last set of Bench reps a challenge though.
Anonleg pumps is what will get you if you're gonna have a problem with the var and cardio..
No leg pumps, but my shoulders kill me when on the Treadmill from swinging my arms. It's also leaving me a bit tired; had to quit the Elliptical early the other night, just couldn't finish. More sleep definitely helps and I can finally feel it kicking in on the lifts.
Anondid you up your dose? a lot of this will depend on your personal physiology.. at least you are getting the pumps now.
I was @ 80 on the previous stuff, but dropped back to 60 when I changed brands. It's not too bad most days.
Yeah, just makes me wonder what else is junk from the same source. I'll about the Var RSN.
How much fat loss did you see from the Var BTW? I understand that takes a bit longer to show.
AnonI lost a clothing size and a half on my first cycle which was 10 weeks but I weigh about twenty lbs more than when I started.
phil113kgHi I would like to know what is the minimum amount of time someone can stay on var? I have a friend that just bought a bottle and I am clueless to how much he can take and for how long.
Anonit depends on your dosage. The higher the dosage the less time you can stay on.. most people stack var with at least one other compound such as test e, which is a long acting ester (it takes several weeks to build up in your system and start working). If you run the standard 50mg dose, you stay on for no longer than 8 weeks preferably 4-6. You run the risk of liver toxicity with all orals even though people will argue that Anavar is mild, it still will be toxic to your liver. Your friend needs to get on the internet and do some research before he starts messing around with AAS.
phil113kgThanks for the reply. I was the one that suggested to him var because he just came off a four week cycle of A-bombs and it elevated his liver enzymes which got him a bit scared being it was his first cycle. So I did some searching and read that var is less toxic on the liver than anadrol. He decided and now we are curious to how and how long he can be on it at the minimum dosage. He doesn't read english due to the fact that he is european so he depends on me to do the foot work. Personally i have never ran var for myself and i am clueless as well. But having eroids at my disposal helps a lot. So thanks for the info.
AnonIf you ask me, a four week cycle on anything is really a waste of money. the gains you might get are very difficult if not almost impossible to keep.
phil113kgSo what are you trying to say, that a longer cycle is best
Anona longer cycle with test as a base
phil113kgsince we are on this subject, let me tell you what I am doing and please give me some insight as to if it is ok. I started my cycle with equi-test at 1000mg a week, that is 500 mg on sunday and the other half on thursday. Two weeks into this i ran anadrol for four weeks and it has been two weeks now that i stopped anadrol but continued to run the equi-test as a base but at 800 mg a week in the same fashion EOTD. I am now ending the cycle with rip blend EOD at 200 mg a pin for four weeks, plus I am doing 50 mg of winstrol ED until the end of this month. Do you think this was sufficient time for a cycle?
AnonWas it the zaralone equitest? Did you find it legit? Your cycle time is more than sufficient. Your total time was 12 weeks? Tell your friend to run the var for 6-10 weeks since muscle density is profound after week 2-3 and short run wont be of any benefit.
phil113kgNo it started with zar but i switched to Bio-chem which both works really good.
AnonGood to know no need to go for longer then if they were legit. 12 Weeks is arround optimal
phil113kgBut if i may have more of your patience, i have a situation that needs to be dealt with concerning timing of a up and coming contest. I wonder if we can continue or conversation here on this thread or shall we go somewhere else? I need some serious advice.
AnonMake a new reply on the top of the thread what is that you want to ask?
phil113kgtop of the thread? you mean this thread?
AnonYes cause its getting kinda claustrophobic down here lol.