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I've been getting a lot of questions about how to run a first cycle and instead of responding to everyone, I'm going to just post something here. First off, you should do research. Google search anything you can think of when it comes to AAS - first steroid cycle, beginner steroid cycle, test and dbol cycle, proper pct for first cycle, etc. This is by no means a be all end all guide to running your cycle, but I'm going to post some things just to get people started in the right direction.

FIRST CYCLE

Your first cycle should be a relatively simple and straightforward one, meaning one, maybe two anabolic compounds, the necessary ancillaries, and a proper PCT. Do not over complicate this one as test will be the base for all your future cycles. Its good to find out how you react to it alone before you add on extra components. I do think running an oral kickstart for a first cycle is acceptable, as using a longer estered test (enanthate or cypionate) will take around 4 weeks before the test is "noticeable" in your system, so you can judge the effects of the oral independent of the testosterone.

Can you run an oral only cycle? Yes you can, but its really really not worth, in most cases. Most people won't retain any of the gains they make off a 4-6 week dbol cycle - you'll blow up quick, but you won't have the extra time on cycle to get your body used to holding the extra mass while being in an elevated anabolic state. Also, all anabolic/androgenic compounds shut down your natural test production. Testosterone is a key component in your everyday functioning in life, and when you supplement your system with anabolics other than testosterone (that shut down your test production), you will feel the effects of the reduced testosterone.

Can I just run Deca or EQ or Tren by itself with no test for my first cycle - it will still be only one compound? No.... again, read above. Using these other anabolics still result in shutting down your natural production of testosterone and you will experience side effects of no testosterone - lethargy, depression, lack of libido, erectile dysfunction, etc.... not worth it. Yes, some people have run cycles with no test and have been fine, but that is generally the exception, not the rule. Much better to play it safe then "hope" you are the exception to the rule.

What's this about gyno? Testosterone (along with a number of other anabolics - deca, dbol) is an aromatizing compound meaning with elevated levels of it, you will have corresponding elevated levels of estrogen in your system. It is generally wise to combat these during cycle to avoid excessive bloating and the posisbility of developing breast tissue (gyno). Two ways of doing this: an Aromatase Inhibitor (AI) or a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM). In general, I think using an AI during cycle is better as it prevents the testosterone from aromatizing in the first place, whereas a SERM prevents the estrogen from binding to estrogen receptors. A popular and easily available AI for on cycle use is Anastrozole (brand name Arimidex); SERMs are generally used if gyno is already an issue on cycle, or for PCT.

PCT - what's that? Post Cycle Therapy - this is a necessity and not something that is optional or can be purchased over the counter in your local GNC. So all cycle long you've been injecting testosterone and you have lots of it in your system, much more than your body naturally produces. So what does your body do ? - it stops producing its own testosterone. As the long estered testosterone wears off at the end of the cycle (roughly two weeks from your last injection), you body realizes that it no longer has testosterone in it and decides to try to make some of its own. At the same time, your estrogen to testosterone ratio is high, meaning you have a lot of estrogen, but very little testosterone, and whats worse, as your body tries to start making testosterone, it converts some of that to estrogen so you have even more estrogen (very simplified explanation of whats happening). Long story short, you need a SERM, peferably Tamoxifen (Nolvadex brand name) to combat these estrogen levels and help your body get itself creating enough testosterone again to sustain your new muscle mass. Yes you can use an over the counter testosterone booster, but you MUST always use a SERM. Always.

Lastly, HCG? HCG is not always a must on your first, or lower dosed cycles, but it is highly, highly recommended. So remember how the testosterone you are injecting is telling your body to stop producing its own testosterone? Well HCG tells you body through a LH signal (I'm not going to go into specifics) to your testes to keep trying to produce testosterone. This will not only limit the amount of shrinkage you will occur on cycle in your boys down below, but it will drastically aid in how quickly you recover post cycle. Now remember, HCG is suppressive as well, meaning it must be discontinued before PCT as well. So this is only used during cycle up until several days before PCT, but will definitely help keep you ready to start producing testosterone again post cycle.

So... how does this all translate into an actual first cycle:

Weeks 1-10: 500mg Testosterone Enanthate per week (2 injections of 250mg, Sunday Morning Wednesday night)
Optional: Weeks 1-4: 30mg of Dbol per day (split in two doses, one pre workout, one 12 hours later)
Weeks 1-12: .5mg of Anastrozole Every other Day (EOD)
Weeks 4-12: 500iu's of HCG per week (2 injections of 250iu's, same days as test, but not in the same syringe)
PCT starts week 12, two weeks after last test shot
Week 1&2: 40mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day
Week 3&4: 20mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day

And that's it. Simple, straightforward and a great first cycle. Remember, time on + PCT = time off before cycle. So this whole cycle would take you 16 weeks, so you need to wait 16 weeks before your next cycle so your body is fully normalized in its natural hormonal state before doing another cycle.

*Note: you could run the testosterone for two more weeks, Weeks 1-12, just move all the other times for the other compounds up by 2 weeks, so PCT starts week 14, HCG/Arimidex ends before you start PCT. Dbol dosage would still stay the same for 4 weeks. *

SECOND CYCLE:

Now the second cycle.... you could run the same cycle again and probably have great results. But many of us are impatient, interested, and curious about the other compounds that exist. I recommend holding off till your third cycle to add something else, especially if your first cycle went well (or if you chose not to use dbol on your first cycle, use it on this cycle). The one main difference I'd suggest for this cycle is to try frontloading the testosterone.

Frontloading? Because your'e using a long estered test meaning it takes ~4 or 5 weeks to reach full blood concentration levels of your weekly dose, you can frontload it, meaning use a much larger dose during the first week to get your blood levels up quicker. A general guideline for this is the following: your first injection of testosterone is equal to your normal bi-weekly dose + you full week dose. So for example, if you're running 500mg of test again, split into two injections per week of 250mg, then your first injection would be your normal injection (250mg) + you weekly dose (500mg) = 750mg, then you'd continue with your normally schedule twice weekly injections of 250mg. This will get your blood levels up much faster and make for a quicker rise to optimum test levels in your system (also making for an overall longer cycle while at optimum levels).

If you did use dbol for your first cycle, and want to try it in another way, I'd suggest running it the last 4 weeks of your cycle, up until the day before PCT. This will keep gains coming as the test begins to wear down the two weeks from your last injection up until PCT. Another popular compound for doing this is Stanazolol (winstrol) or even Oral Turinabol. This keeps gains coming up until the very end of the cycle as you can run orals up until the day before PCT due to their short half life.

Example:

Week 1: 1000mg of test
Week 2-12: 500mg of test per week
Week 10-14: Winstrol or Dbol or Turinabol at 50mg/day
Week 14 (two weeks after last test injection, start PCT)
PCT and all on cycle ancillaries (HCG arimidex) are used the same as the first cycle.

THIRD CYCLE:

Now you've got a couple cycles down, you know what test and dbol/winny/or tbol will do to you. You know how to use your ancillaries correctly, you know how to do PCT correctly. After using the time on + PCT = time off before next cycle rule, you can start your next cycle and get a bit more creative. This time, I'd recommend both kickstarting the cycle with an oral (dbol) for the first 4 weeks, and finishing off the cycle with an oral (winstrol) for 5 or 6 weeks, up until the day before PCT.

Instead of doing that, you could still kick start the cycle, but try another long estered compound. EQ (boldenone) is a good one for lean gains, Deca Durabolin is a good one for large mass. I'd still steer clear of trenbelone at this point (that will have to be a whole other post). Primo or masteron are weaker steroids compared to the ones listed above and are really more suited for those with a very solid, large base and low body fat. They will show their results much better with sub 8% bodyfat and need to be run at relatively high and expensive doses, not worth it for a majority of AAS "look good" users. So some sample third cycles (always run your ancillaries and PCT as outlined in the first cycle):

General Build and Solidify Cycle
Week 1-14 Test E 500mg/wk
Week 1-5 Dbol 50mg/day
Week 10-16 Winny 50mg/day
PCT starts two weeks after last test injection

Big Mass Cycle
Week 1-14 Test E 500mg/wk
Week 1-5 Dbol 50mg/day
**Week 1-13 **Deca Durabolin 400mg/wk
PCT starts two weeks after last test injection (3 weeks after last Deca injection - longer ester, takes longer to clear system)

Lean Mass Cycle
Week 1-14 Test E 500mg/wk
Week 1-6 Oral Turinabol or Anavar
Week 1-12 Boldenone Undeclynate (EQ) 500mg/wk
PCT starts two weeks after last test injection (4 weeks after last EQ injection - very long ester, takes very long to clear system)

FOURTH CYCLE AND BEYOND:

You've now experienced three good cycles and multiple compounds. You can choose to run one of the previous third cycles again, or choose a different one and run it, or you can start to up the doses or certain things. But don't up too quickly. There are diminishing returns in terms of large doses... i.e. 1000mg of test is not as much of a difference from 750mg/test as 750mg of test is to 500mg of test. Couple guidelines, keep test under 1000mg/wk, with 750mg being an ideal "high point". Generally don't run more than one oral at one time, with at least 4 weeks off between orals during a cycle. Generally don't go beyond 60mg/day of orals (Anavar can be run up to 100mg a day, but only after you've tried it at a lower dose). Generally always run more or equal test per week than any other compound, i.e. 750mg of test and 600mg of Deca, or 750mg of test, 750 mg of EQ. Generally don't up the doses of any of these compounds until you've run them at the dose listed under third cycle - that way you know how your respond to them and will reap the benefits from the lower dose before you "must" move to a higher dose to get the same benefits. **ALWAYS RUN PCT AND ALWAYS TAKE TIME OFF = TIME ON CYCLE + PCT EVERYTIME **- this ensure health and longevity. Also, generally don't run a cycle longer than 16 weeks, preferably 14 weeks being the max (this is the amount of weeks actually injecting AAS and do not count the two weeks before PCT from the last test E shot).

That's about it. There are all sorts of shorter estered cycles for those who don't mind pinning more often. These are generally better for cutting as the shorter estered compounds generally make you bloat less and leave your system faster. But again, testosterone is always the base for any cycle.

Examples

Weeks 1-8 Test Propionate, 75mg ED or 150mg EOD
Weeks 3-8 Winstrol 50mg/day

Weeks 1-8 Test P, 150mg EOD
Weeks 1-8 Anavar 60mg-80mg/day

Weeks 1-8 Test P, 150mg EOD
Weeks 1-8 EQ2, 100mg EOD - this is a short estered version of EQ

Weeks 1-8 Test P 150mg EOD
Weeks 1-8 Nandrolone Phenylprop - this is a short estered version of Deca Durabolin (aka Nandralone Decanoate)

You get the point, use short estered compounds with short estered test. Always run your ancillaries and PCT starts 4 days after last test injection when using test propionate.

Good luck and happy cycling.

manlytt's picture

Yea, 250 a week is a year round maitenance dose. I would just continue at that year round at your age. Personally if I were you knowing what I know now I would stay away from the oral steroids and use fast esther prop and what ever compound like npp with it when you wanna blast. Then continue the year with 250 wk slow esther test.There a few posts on blast and cruise for us older guys that could be helpful to you.

marjubb's picture

Hi sorry for the ignorance and I ask your patience but can you briefly explain blasting ,is this a very short cycle with quick acting esters ? if so how do you run it ? and lastly what is npp. thanx.

manlytt's picture

Blasting is when you dose your anabolics higher then testosterone replacement levels. Usually 150 mgs prop every other day and npp or nandrolone phenyl prop fo 8 wks. A couple times a year.

ryanam's picture

Big Mass Cycle
Week 1-14 Test E 500mg/wk
Week 1-5 Dbol 50mg/day
**Week 1-13 **Deca Durabolin 400mg/wk

Shouldn't test be carried on for 2 weeks longer than deca at that length of time?

dboy27's picture

Noob questions--
Having never pinned, nor pinned HCG what is the best needle size and location to pin HCG? After reading up the last hour I understand how to properly prepare the dosage and select the syringe (ie. mix 5000iu/10ml and draw .5cc into a 1cc syringe for 250mg 2x/wk)I just don't know where to put it. Go same depth/location as test? We trying to hit the muscle or is fatty tissue fine with a 1/2" insulin needle?

Also, why is clomid not recommended with nolva pct? Are similar results achieved by the HCG?

Just trying to spounge it all into my head before my ass.

builtFordtough's picture

very informative. waiting on my 3rd cycle to arrive and looks like I did okay. what are your thoughts on using nolva as a during cycle anti aroma?

Thanks

marjubb's picture

Helo to everyone im new to aas im seeing alot of pct and in cycle anti estrogen blockers or aromatization ,is this just for extreme dosages which are way over doctor recomended or for any amount of steroid , (abused dosages) for example the armidex or arastazole , during cycle is this just for crazy dosages or even if you take 20mg ddbol a day,,,,, thanks havent gonne on cycle yet but wanting to cover all bases. ahd health risks.

vocor's picture

some take AIs to reduce bloat and water retention, and others take it to be proactive against excess E sides like gyno.
What is the amount of AAS you will intake before you will need these? Depends on the individual. Even at 250mg a week of Test E/C, might be wise to take an AI in moderation.
As the dose of test goes up, the more likely you'll get E sides like gyno, and the more mandatory an AI will become for any one.
It is hard to say in an individual how much E in their system will trigger sides, but we do know that test aromatizes into E at some percentage. More test in, more E produced. Be safe.

Kwagyu's picture

On the firsrt cycle you mention using HCH will HGH do the same? If so which one is recommended?

TheRoyalPalm's picture

HCG... not HGH...and NO they wont. Completely diff hormones

The reason I took HCG was because I started with extremely low levels of natural test (from not using pct in past cycles) in my body and chose to "kick start" my cycle with that instead of DBOL which is what most people use.

Just depends on your situation on what to take, im not that experienced, so dont look to me for any serious in detail advice on what to take. I did "my" research for "my" situtation and thats why I chose what i did. The vets on here will help you out as they did for me and posting stats when asking questions like this is crucial info.

TheRoyalPalm's picture

Im running the "Actual First cycle" now minus dbol, plus eq 500mg/week . I have had great results and is a perfect reference source for your first. Although I started my HCG on the first week and Have gotten super lean from that.

Thanks for this post

marjubb's picture

Hi sorry for the ignorance but im gathering data , what is an HCG

potato.head87's picture

awesome post!!!!!!!

vocor's picture

Terrific post and very clear. Well done . . . really the best article on this subject matter that I've ever read.

Bigdawg201067's picture

Amazing post, keep it up

hitmann187's picture

I'm curious why are you not supposed to take hcg during your pct???? The fallowing PCT program was developed by Dr. Michael Scally, one of the most well know and accomplished individuals in the field of anabolic steroids and male hormone replacement medicine. Anyways when you start your PCT HCG is taken at 2000IU every other day for 20 days. Clomiphene citrate 50mg is taken twice per day for 30 days. Tamoxifen citrate is taken 20mg twice per day for 45 days. References: William Llewellyn's Anabolics 10th edition.

ultimate domination's picture

why do i keep reading that aromasin is better than arimidex???

which should be run on cycle? i have arimidex but now i feel like i should have gotten aromasin...

brp6997's picture

so I am 147 lbs 32 years old running first cycle i work out regularly do kick boxing and other martial arts 3 days a week im going to follow the cycle on here exactly as he has it except no dbol for the first cycle info - consuming 3500 calories a day 200 protein doing martial arts three days a week and doing three days of lifting a week so monday tuesday wedsday 2 hrs a day running kiking rope situps punching --- thur off friday saturday sunday weights. Friday legs, saturday back bis traps rear shoulder, sunday chest tris front shoulder. how much weight should target myself to gain??? anytips would be much appreciated... I was thinking of doing half a gallon of milk a day to help with calorie intake... Thanks

ch4el5onnen's picture

If your in a weight specific sport and are trying to stay in a a specific wieght clas I wouldnt reccomend those dosages for you but if your looking into gaining wt and getting big then go for it. Too much test will put a damper on your endurance and cardio for mma and boxing, and dbol will give you too much pump for the stuff your doing. Get at me personally if you want to know more about mma, boxing style cycles. The goals are different with mma and weight lifting bud so it makes the aas dosages and compounds different as well.

xfitternow's picture

Would like to hear your opinion on a cycle I am looking into. These are the concerns I have. Would appreciate your help, I friend requested u already

SL's picture

If your trying to gain weight your going to have to lift heavy and eat a lot but keep it clean and do alittle bit of cardio just to combat blood pressure. You should gain a good 20+ lbs

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akhusker's picture

I am new to AAS and Peptides. I have never taken either but I am stuck in size and fat lose and have been researching them for awhile now. I like your AAS stack but am wanting to involve peptides as well but can't find enough info on peptides, and which ones to take and stack, if I can use them with my AAS. From my research peptides are good after a AAS cycle, can you please give me information on using both!

ch4el5onnen's picture

Go to the peptides forum.

jima's picture

i see u mentioned nova for ur pct but no clomid..is clomid not a good alternative reason i ask is cause i was going to pct with clomid

SL's picture

I was told only to run nolva its all you'll need for pct and that's fine for me I'm not a big fan off clomid unless your trying to get your chick prego or have twins lol

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mrincredible's picture

How long should I wait between finishing up my PCT of my 1st cycle before I start my 2nd cycle?

c2c's picture

general rule is time on plus pct time = time off.

godovroidz's picture

Very good info. I'm about to jump into my 3rd cycle here and I'm going with test, eq and some sort of oral to kickstart it.

macklroy3's picture

What's the difference's between Cabergoline and Anastrozole? I have Cabergoline 0.5mg, and wondering how I should take it? I plan on taking:
Test E: 750mg/wk
Deca : 500mg/wk
Caber : ??
PCT : Tamoxifen or Arimidex or HCG??
Sorry for all the questions, just trying to do this cycle the proper way this time. Time to get serious. Thanks!

c2c's picture

Cabergoline is used to combat high prolactin levels caused by deca/tren run half a tab 0.25mg once or twice a week, Anastrozole is a Aromatase inhibitor used to inhibit the aromatization of estrogen, use half a tab 0.5mg every other day.

macklroy3's picture

Thanks bro, is it okay to only take the cabergoline? They are capsules...so I'm not sure if I can split them? Just take 1 a week at 0.5mg? I don't have the Anastrozole, do I need it for this cycle or is it okay to just run the cabergoline? Thanks again.

maddog101's picture

this is great stuff, goes along with much of what I've researched so far, but with some extra info. Thanks so much.

NoCode8511's picture

Great post with solid info! I have two questions or this cycle if someone can chime in, please. Weeks 1-8 Test P 150mg EOD
Weeks 1-8 Nandrolone Phenylprop... 1. Can I run it to a 10 week cycle and 2. Do I need to run the Prop a week longer then the NPP? Thanks

drew3268's picture

Great info man. Thanks for taking the time out to explain all that. Very helpful.

chemdogg's picture

Congratulations on a very professional and well informed post for beginners and moderate users .. definitely A+ material.

X83's picture

A good basic PCT is: Nolva 40/40/20/20 and Clomid 100/50/50/50

k13n's picture

Hmm a lot to take in, guess I gota read a bit more

AB92's picture

What can I add to the first cycle to combat hairloss, I heard finasteride is good for this?

kwabby6's picture

In all honesty please do post. I know a few girls who were wondering what dosages and time lengths would be for them if they were to run some. Thanks

AB92's picture

Sorry I'm being stupid, but how much test do you get from a 10ml bottle of test-e 300. If you're doing at 500mg.

scrow71's picture

TRTblastcruise, great post............extremely valuable insight to the Rookie here.

Best Steroids's picture

Great post and very informatve. I agree with pretty much everything. All I would say is imho there is no need for bi weekly injections with those compounds (longer estered) if you don't want to. One shot a week would be fine. I used to do bi weekly shots but cut it down to one shot a week without any noticable difference in blood levels. It's especially pertinent to me as I now blast cruise permanently so the less shots the better. I only do twice weekly shots now if I'm on a blast where I can't get all the juice into a 5ml barrel.
Only other thing I would add is if you're not going to start with dbol and end with winny, and only use one oral during your cycle, you could extend the dbol to 6weeks at the beginning or use the winny for the last 6 weeks. Maybe throw in some liver protectants like milk thistle.
The main thing to remember is that everyone is different and will react differently to each compound, so listen to your body and if you can afford it, get blood work done. If something doesn't feel right...stop it. When I'm on a tren cycle and I start getting kidney pains, I know it's time to stop lol.

SL's picture

Idk if I read this wrong or you typed it wrong but you shoot 5ml of oil on one spot. I thought it was 2ml 3 top then shoot the rest in a different area?

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