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+ 6 5 week labs on K4L and Titans

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Pre cycle and 5 week labs. Cycle is
*400mg Test C from K4L
*200mg Mast E from Titans (Unc)
*50mg T-Bol from Titans (used for 1st 4 weeks)

Test and Mast are every 3.5 days. Pin Sunday am and Wednesday pm. The week of labs, I did not pin on Wednesday night but instead waited until after blood was drawn on Thursday morning. Total test seems pretty low for some reason. Any ideas?

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Gotem69's picture

Either you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about or you're a k4l fan boy in leaning towards both now every time k4l test pops up you got some dumb shit to say of some random janoski lab pops you jump down to your knees with your mouth open

I better never see you donate to another source regarding how hard you ride k4l dick.

NUMBERS DON'T LIE. This has become a trend now.

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Petecastiglione's picture

Mate he is a 3 week old account if you guys pay attention to how laughable and bs the fan boys are here. It’s all bs

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Gotem69's picture

Wouldn't it be fuckin hilarious if it was the same dude that runs k4l account having a conversation with himself with a burner account...

Idk what leads you to believe they won't brew up underdosed raws they blatantly under filled vials and that you can spot with your own eyes they are playing us like we are incompetent and ppl like you are the reason why.. Like I said @TomHardcastle to many ppl are pulling low numbers regarding there testosterone to be some kind of conspiracy first with a damn mechanical error now he's showing us some graphs this shit is actually pretty entertaining at this point...

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daddyfixit's picture

The guy that runs K4L having a fake conversation with himself is exactly what I would expect from this so call source. They are now in the death spiral. I mean you would have to be a complete idiot to order this bunk crap.

Gotem69's picture

Lmfao right!

K4L
"Hey check out my cool graph"

@TomHardcastle
"Amazing graph this totally makes sense couldn't of said it better myself ohh and I'm totally not a fangirl or anything I've only donated to yall twice I'm actually only donating to other sources currently I've made a ton of orders and only two have been to K4L did I mention I donate more to other sources?"

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TomHardcastle's picture

Genuinely can not have a rational convo with you- I won’t respond after this. Do research and find out how much it costs to brew testosterone vs other compounds big dog.

Hate on whoever you want- I have compounds from a ton of places I couldn’t care less.

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Gotem69's picture

Bro rub two brain cells together... what compound do you think is donated for the most and utilized the most it's literally testosterone it's used for trt or a base for every cycle... look at the bigger picture if they cook up some underdosed raws and push them to everyone that donates to them that's a shit ton of profit off of already what they make. They aren't pushing out one vial of underdosed test like you're thinking of just magically one vial is underdosed at the end of the brewing and bottling process that's literally impossible....

"Could it be a botched vial? Maybe"

You're really that stupid that you think they brew up one single vile at a time don't you...?

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TomHardcastle's picture

Talking to you is insufferable and I feel dumber. Later.

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Gotem69's picture

Nah you're feeling dumber bc all the rec drugs you do well I at least I hope you do bc you need to have some kinda excuse thinking there is one botched vial after a whole brew lmfao.

That's all I needed you to say to show ppl how retarted you are.

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Petecastiglione's picture

It’s almost sus he has graphs on hand it’s like such an over explanation for bs ready to go. It’s simple, control your quality. And yea bro, I really think it’s a burner scheme. Click on all the profiles that come out of no where and defend tf out of kits. I’m like the only one who calls it out

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TomHardcastle's picture

No need to get upset- I have only used them twice lol. I am just stating that under dosing testosterone is not really typical man. His bloods don't add up. I recently just got bloods done as well on same and got 1930 on 220mg cruise.

You don't need to be so confrontational bro, it's just a forum where we can all speak our mind. Comments like yours prevent others from wanting to comment, try being nice man...

And before you ask AGAIN to go pic for pic on physique like you have with me and many others, you look good I am not knocking your knowledge lol.

Cheers!

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Gotem69's picture

I'm not being confrontational at all man you're absolutely right this is a forum where ppl can comment on stuff this is the way I speak when I keep seeing someone disagreeing constantly with bloods and stuff k4l is being shady about. This has nothing to do with the way me or you look. I have very little knowledge when it comes to pharmacology and bloodwork I just know bs when I see it. Speaking your mind isn't spouting out disinformation you tell the dude it's probably some other markers or something else causing this like you're some kind of MD. I could definitely understand what you're saying if this was just one individual but like i mentioned above this is now becoming a trend ppl pulling low numbers....

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Petecastiglione's picture

He’s downvoting us for only saying the truth lol foh TomSoftDick

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Milfpounder's picture

TOMSOFTDICK AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

God I'm immature

Petecastiglione's picture

Yea me too lol

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Gotem69's picture

lil dick that's why he loves his underdosed test for his hormone therapy anything works good when your full of estrogen..

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Petecastiglione's picture

Spot on

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Milfpounder's picture

I think I'm too poor to run kits. $350 min, and gotta run 450mg/week for trt.

Petecastiglione's picture

Yes dude we just don’t have the funds to run such gear

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Milfpounder's picture

Hahahaha Jesus. Lil test makes that lil dick throb

Kits4lessdomestic's picture

@Gotem69 Just worth pointing out: one of the guys being lumped into this “trend” sent his vial for HPLC, and it came back dosed spot on. At 96h post injection, you’re always going to see numbers that look modest compared to labs pulled the day of/day after injection. Check out the SteroidPlotter graph I posted above.

He's going to send a sample to Jano, so i’m confident enough in that that I’ll say this: if his HPLC comes back >10% off, I’ll give you $500. If not, you owe me a beer, or at least a bit more credibility in your eyes.

I get why you have the perception of us that you do given some of the recent noise. It’s still disappointing, because while we don’t claim perfection, we do genuinely put a lot of effort into (1) doing things right, and (2) going further than most sources to make it right if we don’t.

Gotem69's picture

This user that you're speaking of sent his vial off would it happen to be 20ramcummins?

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Kits4lessdomestic's picture

Yep thats the one

Gotem69's picture

Didn't you ask him what compound he's sending off and also the batch number..?

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Kits4lessdomestic's picture

IIRC he mentioned it on the post he made. That said, he sent the sample to Jano himself completely blind

Gotem69's picture

Ok, but he told them what he was sending off and then you asked him for the batch number before jano even had the sample?

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Kits4lessdomestic's picture

I knew the batch number, he posted it on the thread. The sample he sent to Jano though did not have a batch number on the sample or on the test report. So he did not tell Jano (AFAIK) anything other than that the sample would be an AAS oil sample.

Here's the original thread: https://www.eroids.com/pics/5-weeks-blood-work

Gotem69's picture

I noticed his sample it was dosed properly

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Petecastiglione's picture

Good question

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foreverlost4's picture

Underdosed test for sure brother most likely half at 100mg/ml. Especially if you’ve gotten 2000+ total at same dose. I would contact K4L and definitely switch brands of test.

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Zoleo's picture

I had to do a double take, 1100 total on 400mg of test c per day??? Uhhhh what? I remember when I was on pharma TRT test c at 200mg per week I was 1,200 total. Wtf? It could be that some people have issues with de-esterification of the cypionic ester that gives it its half life effect? Kurt Havens (I bring this guy up way too much) has a research paper about enanthate vs cypionate and it shows that various markers like total T etc can be vastly different between the two. I wonder if you use test e from the same vendor (as long as both have jano reports) at the same dose you’d have a different result.

JayTee87's picture

I know, reading is hard. who says he takes 400mg of Test C per day?!

Black90tsi's picture

That chase irons guy when he was doing 3k mg/week?

Zoleo's picture

*per week, my bad, changed up my original post, but keeping this one since that was quite the bad typo

Drexyl's picture

Sorry broski, but this panel is reflective of someone who is on testosterone therapy, not supraphysiological dosages. Taking into account all the other blood markers, it reads as perfectly dialed in TRT.

Had to edit- I read the dates wrong. We’re all built differently, but this would be in the 100-125mg a week range for me.

Milfpounder's picture

Can you imagine getting a legit trt script and walking out of your grocery store pharmacy with a bottle each of test, drostanolone and tbol hahahaha.

"See you in six weeks for a refill!"

sandman3698's picture

So would it be because his total T is slightly above reference but his free T is considerably higher that we can guess the Test C is under but the masteron is good?

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Drexyl's picture

That’s part of it, you’re going to see that with exogenous testosterone and a compound controlling the estro. Seeing his RBC, AST/ALT, MCV, he’s dialed in to a great TRT dosage, slightly high for long term, but with the health markers there’s nothing to argue here. He’s in great shape. Is he getting what he paid for? That’s an entirely different conversation lol

GlassGuru's picture

So, in your opinion, it seems like the Mast E is most likely not the problem? Sorry if thats a dumb question.

sandman3698's picture

K4l has not been doing great lately it seems. Thanks for filling me in on that.

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GlassGuru's picture

That was my thoughts too. I was like, dang, these are probably pretty decent trt numbers. Lol

IppoHajime's picture

This batch looks like it’s underdosed brother. What batch is it?

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GlassGuru's picture

00C03

RobertB80's picture

Have you contacted K4L? Given your past results would indicate this test is very underdosed.

GlassGuru's picture

No, I haven't. Didn't wanna jump to conclusions, you know. Never ran Mast before, so didn't know if maybe it was affecting the numbers or something. Figured I'd post results and seek others options first.

GlassGuru's picture

Batch number 00C03. Looks like they just posted results for this batch, but when I ordered there wasn't any results for it.

20ramcummins's picture

my bad mine is test E

20ramcummins's picture

Thats the batch i was taking and sent it in for testing. 337mg a week and my total was 1201.

PumpThoseDelts's picture

Underdosed, with 400mg week your testosterone levels should be 2k as you were last cycle

GlassGuru's picture

Just for reference. My last cycle of just 400mg Test from APOrders put my total at 2462 and my free at over 700. The Pic for that lab test in under the Pic section in my profile.