posted Thu, 10/02/2025 - 04:08
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+ 6 5 week labs on K4L and Titans
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Pre cycle and 5 week labs. Cycle is
*400mg Test C from K4L
*200mg Mast E from Titans (Unc)
*50mg T-Bol from Titans (used for 1st 4 weeks)
Test and Mast are every 3.5 days. Pin Sunday am and Wednesday pm. The week of labs, I did not pin on Wednesday night but instead waited until after blood was drawn on Thursday morning. Total test seems pretty low for some reason. Any ideas?
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Update: I've been in contact with Ben from K4L and I have agreed to send a sample to both Jano and Analiza for testing. I am sending these samples as Unknown source. He has offered to reimburse me and I feel assured that he will. I've also decided to continue using this Batch of Test C for another 2 weeks and will retest approximately 24 hours after pinning and will post those results when available. If results are the same, than I've only lost a few extra weeks and will be a lesson learned. If results are on par with what should be expected from 400mg of Test C, than I'll know that pinning every 3.5 days is obviously not ideal for me and will have to adjust on future cycles. Just wanted to post this update so everyone knows that they're at least trying to remedy the situation.
i am also going to use there test c from k4l and post blood work
Glad to hear it
For premium placebo and short vials, there’s always K4L.
Thanks for sharing bloods*
Quick shipping tho.. haha
They have the most insane responses I have ever seen. It’s like gaslighting people that clearly got under dosed shit.
FAX
I just made an order with them for 4xnpp and 11x test c will review there gear with blood work and will update you guys.
after reading a lot posts here. I will test the gear with a lab source and run my bloods with my doctor. I have been using gear for 15 years ill know when something is off.
So far I have used there bpc157/tb500 which worked fine
used there red box dragon hgh which was great
used one bottle of primo e which felt off so didnt think much about it and switched to another brand
used there 10mg oral var which felt kinda off
still have one bottle of test e left
Will keep you guys updated
mods delete all my comments on this thread. thank you
You've been running gear for 15 years and noticed all the low blood work, proof of under filled vials just to mention the obvious things and you still decided to from them..?
I think you made a typo you ment to say I'm 15 years old and I'm excited to use gear..
thumbs up
You mean thumbs down lmfao I'll thumbs up you tho hope your transition goes well don't think npp is required for that I'm no MD though. You must of used the bpc/tb after your bottom surgery glad it's all working out! I'll still show you love even though your mom and dad never did.
Why are you so mad? You talk like a woman. So much emotion in your post.
I read some of your posts. I thought you were a serious person. You clearly aren't.
It's bc my estrogen is to high along with 2000mg of tren a week it's got my emotions all wacky.
Anyways lmk when you're out the hospital I'd like to send you a bouquet of flowers and a card.
if you are running 2000mg of tren its you who will need the flowers. I am sure everyone here wont mind starting a gofundme page in case you need a lot flowers sent over.
I need a go fund me regardless I'm poor can I send you my btc wallet you can be the first funder? 2k tren isn't to high honestly I take milk thistle so I'm ok you don't think so? I googled the Dallas mcarver cycle and I'm doing his death cycle I'm thinking I'm either gonna be his size at the end of 8 weeks or die but with the milk thistle supplement I'm taking I won't die a guy at gnc sold it to me he said it's all I'll ever need.
What's really got me curious is you having a minor as your profile picture...!?
your tren is definitely bunk lol
Nahh it's not I got it from a dude that knows a dude 120 a vial can't be. Lmfao you keep downvoting don't tell me you're a 180lb broccoli head boy!?
Don't ignore my question what's up with the pic of the minor bro?
180lb broccoli head boy this is the only thing we agree on these kids have no idea what they are doing in the gym and are all masters in training.
If you seen what i look like you would stop talking shit and ask me for advice.
You know you can post a self shot right?
Let's see? We can go pic for pic?
Also hold a piece of paper with your profile name and date.
naw bro based on your avi i know for a fact i am better than you and i dont need to prove anything to anyone.
Lol I knew you're response before you even gave it ok big guy..
Based on your avi I'm assuming you're a chomo and your stats I got a whole 30lbs on ya that pic is also a year old. I'm always ready lmk when you are? I don't need a show to dictate if I need to get my physique and health in check but do you big guy. You brought the shit up of how you look I was just asking for you to show me you're not all there are you?
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Good luck
Do you lnow your estro # ranges in at that doese of test. With a 58 estro # at that low of test id be worried about the mast as well.
From my experience mast doesn’t necessarily lower estrogen numbers like EQ or Primo. It more helps to control just the sides of high estro and without necessarily lowering e2. But that’s me
Estrogen was 31 on pre cycle labs
On my script test Cyp at 90mgs a week, one shot a week, on the 3rd day after injection I'm 1,080ng/DL...
Well that’s a bit of a hyper response for sure
Time to get our pitch forks back out of the shed lol. That is low for 400mg ew, even with you pulling bloods about 4 days after your last shot. I’ve done bloodwork with the same timing and it’s way off from yours. One time I was cruising on 200mg ew of pharm grade test and did bloods 4 days after my last 100mg shot and was still nearly 1000ng/dl. You being on double the dose should be way more than 100 points higher.
PITCH FORRRRKKKSSSS
Some random eroider shows up with a noose...
"WRONG KINDA LYNCHING MAN!"
Yea it’s a load of bullocks. Dw they pulled out a graph
But will probably get a lab report back from jano showing it’s actually 99.9% pure and perfectly dosed lol.
I just actually posted in response to what k4L said to me. It is funny they never send anything to any other labs. The way they throw 500$ around and more it would be nothing for them to drop 10 or 20 grand to keep the cash flowing.
I think it's gonna come back just like u said also. Janos been compromised. If someone sending samples blind OK. Besides that jano is done.
This Would all make sense if Jano was compromised. I think it was 20ramcummins who tested really low a few weeks ago and they had him send in a sample to Jano. He did it as anonymous as possible, unlabeled vial, no Eroids name or anything. And It still came back damn near perfect. Im more inclined to believe that. But it makes no sense. These test levels we’re seeing just don’t jive with the lab reports from jano. They’re polar opposites.
Exactly. The game is over.
"over dosed"
Dude if you think kits is underdosed you clearly never ran kits - every 3 week old account
I’m sure it’s already been stated plenty here.
Low numbers for test dosing and timing of lab draw.
You should be checking cholesterol while running orals brother, even DHT derivative injectables. Just chymed here in to mention that.
I did. I just didn't post them. Was trying to keep the amount of images on the post to a minimum, so it wasn't so much to look through.
Not bunk, but 100% underdosed.
Below 600ng/dl is quite low for 400mg a week total. Cypionate shouldn't have a trough that low as your peak should be around 2500ng/dl
I realize everyone is different but I cannot see someone pinning 200mg of test every 3.5 days and 4 days after last pin having 570ng/test
Something is off
Goto steroidplotter dot com and goto tools and then steroid plotter and put in Test Cyp 200mg every 3.5 days for 16 weeks
That one is from pre cycle labs. 5 week labs is the other pic. Total test level was 1100 on 5 week lab
My apologies. Still think you should be around 2500 though but thanks for clearing that up, I was like huuuh?
In theory where he should've been if he had pulled bloods within 24hrs of first injection, but per the graph below you can see that there would've been a steep decline, as he pulled bloods an entire 4 days after last injection.
After modeling this with Steroid Plotter, your numbers actually line up reasonably well. Since your last pin was Sunday morning and the blood draw was Thursday morning, that’s roughly 96 hours - a full 4 days post-injection. At that point you’d expect to be much closer to trough than peak. Keep in mind this is just a pharmacokinetic model,individual clearance rates vary, and some people metabolize the same ester a bit faster or slower than others. (Models are averages. They assume textbook half life kinetics. In practice, real world troughs can vary a lot from the idealized curve, and lab assay variability adds another layer)
You plotted 400mg every 3.5 days it's 200mg every 3.5 days and you also offset it by almost 50%
Just change it to 200mg with no offset
Youre right, would've been the same exact thing essentially though.
Fair enough
Yeah that is alarmingly low. Strange because that batch just came back right on the money. What was your Free Testosterone on the lab results where you got 2400?
Would you be willing to send out a 1ml sample of that Test C on our dime? I'll cover all the costs and give you a store credit.