posted Thu, 09/04/2025 - 10:08
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Running 337 mg test e from k4l and 140 mg tren a from yms. Im not impressed with the numbers. Usually 125 mg test e puts my total around 900. I have some test from unc in going to start running and retest in 5 weeks.
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What batch of testosterone is this?
Are you willing to send it out to janoshik? I'll cover all the costs, and give you a $1000 payment (straight bitcoin, not just store credit).
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When I send this in I put:it in separate vial and nothing linking it 2 u??
Keep it in our vial but take the label off.
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BTW - We've never seen a single independently tested batch of testosterone get sent to Jano and actually be severely underdosed. Never. We've also tested dozens of batches of our Testosterone finished product and API's with Janoshik ourselves. Full transparency, A vial cost ~$3 to make including raws, vial, stopper, cap, label. You REALLY think we are going to put the reputation we've built spending tens of thousands of dollars on testing on the line to make what....an extra $1 per vial?
You said you wouldn't send the vial out, but I HIGHLY encourage you to. $1000 is $1000.
Do you guys test each batch of raws before brewing the gear? So if it’s less pure you can adjust the recipe accordingly and make up for it? Or only after you make the finished product you send it out?
I agree, it makes no sense to purposefully underdose gear. I’ve been saying that for years. But it could make sense for your sneaky Chinese raw supplier to sell say 10,000 grams of test as 20,000 and double their money. But at the same time they probably don’t want to lose your business either. Idk how many options there are to switch if one of them fuck you?
But somewhere in this supply chain something’s going wrong. There is no reasonable explanation why someone 5 weeks in on 337mg of test should be at 1200ng/dl. Most people will be there on less than half that. This isn’t GH where we are depending on a process in the body to produce the desired result and response is highly variable. Test levels varies some but not that much. He should close to 2000. Many people would be over that.
They don't brew that gear they buy it and slap labels on it. If they brew it let's see pics of their equipment make me a believer with the date and eroids written on it or today's newspaper.
Let's see the hood and media bottles fillers dissenfecting oven.
Put your money where your mouth is @Kits4lessdomestic
Personally I don’t really care if they white label it or brew it themselves. All I want is a source that sends out their product for testing before selling it to us. To ensure we’re getting accurately dosed gear every time. Even if that means saying this batch of test is only 180mg/ml and not 250 and adjust the price accordingly. Whoever does this will be on top forever.
I don’t blast anymore but when I did I wasted too many cycles on underdosed gear. We all will only get so many blasts before our bodies say no more so in a perfect world none of that time on would be wasted on underdosed gear.
And for what is worth i did research and you were right about biological availability of rhgh. The raw is in fact all made in the same factory. It's all about the lypholize process that determines everything. And how much it mutates while in transit and storage until reconstituted.
Pretty crazy though cuz there diff proteins that all test as GH. And they say they don't affect how well it works. Yet there no long term research to prove that.
The molecular weight of pharma molecules are heavier than those of generic though which means they're more potent. Because they are it biologically available.
In the end exactly what you said is 100%. That if you just do more generic you can get the same affect just with more side effects. I was doubting u a bit though not gonna lie. Lol
I feel you.
If they're not making it though how do they know how clean it is. That would mean they need to be testing for contaminants also.
.. that's the reason i said let's see the equipment they claimed over and over again they do in fact be themselves.
Honestly. I'm done. Whatever I'll never buy nothing from them anyway.
So im looking into sending it in. I can send it in a vial that has none of ur info on?
That’s the only way you should do it. No identifier's to your Eroids username, the source or even the compound. Jano doesn’t need to know any of that to do his testing.
I will eat my words it if comes back near properly dosed.
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If yall donated to kits recently thank them for keeping our health in check looks like we are all going on a Cruise or you're currently on a cruise rather we like it or not lmao
Maybe they will come out and say they are turning over a new leaf and they are now a harm reduction supplier they just forgot to print the new labels kinda like when they claimed to change the dates on vials to 2025 but got everything else right.
hmmm....coincidentally on the mast vials while the shortage is going on....
Hahaha daddy ben is watching out for us
Ohh thanks daddy Ben!
That’s disappointing. 1200 is where I’d expect you to be on 100-150mg a week. Really sucks cause it seemed like this source was trying to be a step above the rest testing every batch. Not sure what’s happened to them recently.
I’d be really on watch for an exit scam here tbh
That's not a solid number for the dose. I know everyone responds differently, but you're now the 3rd one in days to post a low test number paired with a decent test dose. 150mg puts me at 1500 3 days after a pin.
His levels should be def be higher but you are def a good responder to test if you get 1500 on 150
Yeah I tend to respond pretty really well to compounds, this year 500mg puts my test at or just below 4000 3 days after a pin. Although I did take a long break from blasting. Nearly 5 years, so I'm sure that has something to do with it.
Ive posted results for k4l from before. This is definitely lower
Ranger3252Thanks for posting this, I’ve never ran them. Now I definitely will never even consider them. I have a feeling a lot of srcs are looking for an exit strategy until things come back around in our favor. At least it’s not completely bunk, but certainly under dosed smh. Good luck man, would be nice to hear from the SRC, but looking like they are caught red handed.
I could see that with some companies for sure. I think there's a couple domestics that would be honest about it and just close shop without the scam. Then there's gonna be the ones that try and ride the storm by staying in the game with the peptides till things come back. But there will def be some that scam, dissappear, and open up when things get back to normal under a new name
Just a little disappointed in k4l lately. Got my first gh experience with them and igf came back what it should for dose. But that was 2-3 months ago
I have bloods posted from 11 months ago from source and it was legit
Ranger325211 months ago versus today is a huge difference. No shortage of raws 11 months ago. It’s clear this src took the shortcut and is selling under dosed shit.
Never have taken tren before. What dose did u start at your first time or what would u recommend?
I started at 140 mg but wasn't pinning every day so it was pointless. Was using tren a
Oh ok. Ya i was reading that post you put about your first time too
Read my one post on it. Lots of great info. I was doing it wrong
Ok will do for sure! Thnx I appreciate it
Yikes, I'm trying to tell people. There on the down
Slope. They're gonna be the next one doing a exit scam.
Meta pt. 2
Meta you never seen it coming. The gear was great. Prices were crazy, they blew k4L out of the water. Only thing this shit source has on em is delivery cuz it's domestic.
That’s why I don’t feel stupid with Meta. It wasn’t my first order with them, the gear was all perfect and prices unmatched for the quality. Meta shipping was worth the wait. They had no indication of an exit scam. K4L is starting to get sus
I'll probably fall for the exit scam still. I'm a sucker for a good deal. Even on fake under-dosed gear I'll empty the bank for it.
Jesus. I get in the 1700's from legit 200mg test cyp. Can't wait for kits smug, flippant response in 4-5 days. Spoiler, they are gonna blame someone else or you. Probably gonna say ur a low responder.
Yeah, Gotta allow for the HUGE time delay in getting a response.
Of course. Almost like they wait and see if the shit will just go away and blow over without them saying anything
I have blood work posted around 11 months ago from them. 400 mg put me at 2442
Ya that's terrible. You're not pinning much less than that now, and literally getting 1/2 the results.
Yes, I am rocking those numbers on 120mg per week from another source which I tested a couple of times and is legit.
I guess your stuff is heavily underdosed.
A guy just posted in the k4l thread just under 2000 on 500mg/week... feel like that's a little low for 500. Granted I know everyone reacts differently. But seeing your results has me leaning more towards under dosed now. I know we are all anecdotes, but if they all start to trend the same way....
Yeah bro I've doubled my dose with the shit I'm taking from them lol
Im switching gear
Oh yeah same here I already got more stuff on the way from unc I'll still use these vials bc I'm not gonna flip em lol I've injected worse stuff in my body straight to the bloodstream as a matter of fact but that was like 6 years ago lol
Forget kits man, I have seen way too much negative on them lately. They need to be ranked down.
I have blood work posted from 11 months ago running 400 mg weekly from k4l and total test was 2442. So something is off
Sorry to see this mate.
The machines probably weren't calibrated that day.
Probably lol. And im not sending it to get tested. Will toss it out