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Well, lately I've been obsessing about deadlift max going up. I work out with a lot of powerlifters and deadlifts has always been a normal compound lift in my training program, but lately I've hit a plateau. I've maxed out my deadlift at 415 lbs, in all honestly; it wasn't fully locked out... locked out at 405 lbs. I can't seem to get over that 405 lbs mark. I deadlift twice a week, one of my favorite lifts. One of those two days I max out and the remaining day I do reps in the 8-10 range, excluding my 12 rep 225 lbs warm up. What I'm asking is what routine, well I'm not changing my routine, what tricks or tips do you have to bring your deadlift max? I'm pushing for a 550/600 lbs max by December so the clock is ticking my friends... Many thanks for the help guys...

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Thanks for everyone who pitched in, I got to 425 lbs deadlift today and I did it twice! +1 For everybody!!

bm765's picture

for me, DL gains always came with big squat gains so I spent most of my time working squats vs deads (i usually trained bench and either squat or DL at the same time, never all 3 as I felt recovery was affected going balls to the walls squat and DL training for any extended period of time).

so thats one thing to keep in mind.

also when I approached DL training, I liked to have an exercise that addressed breaking the floor, the midway point (say like mid shine to just above knees) and lockout. basically hammer every part of the ROM of the lift where weak points usually manifest themselves.
paused, DL stance box squats made me FLY off the floor
BB and heavy DB rows I felt were good for midrange-lockout
romanians I liked a lot for the mid part of the lift as well.

also, a lot of my DL PRs were hit after taking a 1-2 week break from deadlifting but continuing to do the above accessories 3x a week. prob has to due with how much the lift taxes your CNS, especially as you get into heavier weights, but I found training the accessories in the 5-10 rep range allowed significant carryover even if you don't DL for a bit for that reason. I think louie simmons said in one of his articles something along the lines of "all our guys make their best pulls by NOT training deadlifts" and from my own training Ive made similar observations.

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I brought my DL max up by squatting a lot.
I DL once a week and less than 10 reps total. Maybe a second day of speed deads.

I had times where I did not DL at all, and hit a 50lbs pr on my first workout. Just from squatting 2-3 times per week.

Scaling back your back training might also help. I notice that I have a hard time progressing on deads because of all the rowing I do.

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I can't do deads twice a week because I'm so sore from leg day (sore sun-wed) i do deads wed and I'm sore til sat lol. Then start over.
I'm new to heavy deadlifting but I'm around your weight, 185lb, pulling 405 myself and rack pull 460lbs. Working towards 500 from floor and 225 x 20 to one up my dad who is 185 as well.
Sry no tips just wanted to join in conversation. Great tips for us already posted.

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West side barbell program incorporating dynamic effort days (50% of max for 8 sets of 3, 11 sets of 2...) done as fast as possible. Also adding in bandwork. Bandwork really helped my dead lift. If you don't have band pegs on your squat/power rack or a dead lift platform, you can use dumbbells to attach the bands to. Also, a few wendler 5-3-1 mesocycles might work good for you. Those are 4 weeks cycles, where you use specific percentages of you max for specific reps and change them throughout the 4 weeks.

The number one thing that helped my dead lift out was doing Glute/ham raises on the GHD every single leg day!!! The increased neuromuscular connection with the posterior chain is a huge leap forward. Also helps with flexing the Glute/hams in your rear poses. I'm a way faster sprinter now as well.

Almost forgot, diagnosing your weak points in the dead lift and hammering those accessory lifts that target that weak point.

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Funny you mention the Westside Barbell Program I was just beginning to read about it, when I seen this reply. Thanks broski

K.Bear210's picture

Never do more than 5 reps for any real working Dead lift set is good advice I've learned over the years. I've made the most gains, going from 545lbs- 585lbs, this last summer deadlifting once every 2 weeks with one Max effort every 6 weeks. (TRT only during that time, not a strength AAS cycle)

Usually several warms ups with overly exaggerated explosive effort using 135x5*, 315x10*, 405x5,

Than 3 sets of 5 using 455, 495, 495. No need to go higher just work on going faster and more explosive each set. When 495 goes up as fast as 225 its time use 545 for last set and adjust the first 2 in like manor.

Doing box squats once a week or every other week for a few sets of 5 helps develop more explosive power. (IMO this is the best deadlift exercise, I credit most of my gains in DL to this )

For 1 Rep max effort usually work up to reps of 3,2,1,1,1

Every 4th or 5th usual session (Not 1RM) I'll substitute rack pulls from low pin and just add more weight, or going a little lighter and doing Sumo Style. (unless you find your stronger sumo style, than I would say leave as is and try for faster reps or increase weight)

I think 500lbs is realistic by december if you take your time, people tend to overload their CNS training DL too often. And make sure your activating your glutes! If you have video I can take a look for you.

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hmm, that is some good info my friend.

Never do more than 5 reps for any real working Dead lift set

I appreciate it man, it's my notebook bro.

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It's already been sent dude, did you fall asleep LOL

tonytulo's picture

pm me bro its all about assistance exercises for the dead lift if you have trouble at the top locking out rack pulls from below the knee, band tension and banded rack pulls. trouble at the start position deficit deads on a platform banded or un banded. also most don't realize how much your back has to do with locking out, your legs start the movement if you do it correctly and transition to your back.

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10-4 Bro PM sent