+ 1 Fasting training, yes or no?
When it comes to training strategies, we are often immersed in a sea of information, some exact, some less so.
Which one of you has ever tried to train on an empty stomach? Surely there will be those who have benefited greatly, still others have not even completed their training.
Clearly I'm not talking about cardio (aerobic) training, where hormonal levels stimulate the lipolytic process. In this case our body will try to suck energy from fat deposits. I think fasting training is the best choice.
Weight training is very different.
There are many studies that show, even at the hormonal level, that this type of training is more effective. Others say the opposite.But I do not want to talk about this, the reading would become boring.
Personally, I often train in the morning, after 7/8 hours of fasting, regardless of the period in which I am (cut/mass), and the technique used.
On fasting, I feel the body much more active, whilst, on the contrary, it might find itself in a state of laziness during the digestion phase. Even if I train after 2 hours.
Using this protocol I feel very good also at the level of strength and I can also "load" without problems.
I only take one coffee, and amino acids bcaa. During the training session I drink only mineral salts. Once the training is complete, it is essential to integrate everything the body needs for muscle building.
In this case, each of us takes our own proteins, amino acids and more.
I wanted to share with you and your experiences, did you notice big differences?
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If you want to grow eat, eat, eat... When you eat though is very important.. Timing is everything and what you eat as well. The more protein the more muscle. The more juice the more you’ll go beyond your genetic potential but you have to eat. I call it the juice to eating ratio. You can take all the juice you want if you’re not eating 8 to 10 times a day more and more every week. You will not grow or achieve your goals.
That's exactly what I'm going to do. I have just started a new cycle with an average dosage (for some maybe it is low) but I want to eat 6/8 times a day. Small macros with at least 30g of protein.
The more juice you use, the less you will get at the end of the cycle. I agree.
It is really hard to train with a full stomach but with an empty stomach I don't know.
The question would be how to arrange the amount of emptiness,
But I definitely prefer running with empty stomach:)
I have to eat. I also train in the morning .. I throw down my coffee early and then a pbnj sandwich on the way to the gym .., I drink my protein during training and my post workout protein on the way home in the car .. then I eat again when i get home. I don't think I could complete my workouts without eating. I even pop glucose tabs for some quick bursts of energy or if I am feeling sluggish.
backup2018I feel like I’m gonna die if I don’t eat before my workouts. I feel dizzy and light headed. I’m just one of those people that need food in me before I woRkout even if it’s just eggs and oatmeal. I used to start my day on two rounds of whole meal brown bread so smothered in peanut butter and Nutella followed by a bowl of oatmeal. Set me right up for the day ahead.
Achilles412I fast from 10pm-1pm I do my first cardio session at 530 and train at 8 am I enjoy it. My last cardio session is around 730pm about 3 meals in and sometimes I can actually feel the difference I feel much heavier
I tried the fasting last summer for 7 months. Man i thought i had found the perfect way. Even had an inbody body fat test done at 4% and 4.7 % a month later
This summer for the ebc challenge i decided not to FAST AND went to 7 meals and added 2 iu hgh. This summer pretty dabm close to same body fat but also weigh 10 pounds more. Sooo. I dont fast anymore. But its great for some that need help with macros
Achilles412Yea you looked great for ebc. Congrats When you fasted how many meals a day did you get in?
I fasted from 9pm till 1. I hit the same calories of 2370
4-5 meals. And now 7 smaller meals that i dont fast.
And peak week 1,800 calories
Achilles412I am at 5 meals a day but only carbs once a week. Downs out 60 pounds over the last 6 months or so. No keto as my fats stay low w high protein but that’s dope you found your sweet spot my man.
Thankyou. Im glad you have made so much progress keep it going
Achilles412Thank you brother very much appreciated
jayiskI fast from 11 PM to 7 AM while i sleep. that is why the morning meal is literally called "break-fast"...,lol
Achilles412Damn I’m kind of jealous of your 8 hours lol
Why starve the body of carb's, fats and protein - Goes against the point of lifting weights doesn't it? ...
Achilles412There is some hormone benefits of short consistent fasts. I’m not for the crazy 7 day fasts or nothing crazy. I could link the studies but I’m too lazy....probably cause I fast lol
Yes. I agree. I notice the same characteristics. My schedule for the last year has had me exercising around the early a.m. hours, 0230-0330. I have had to keep my exercise times to under 20-30 minutes. I do feel as if I'm lighter, more energetic, mentally alert and focused during those times. I feel like I can clear my head and get ready for the day. I do, as well, have the coffee, small amount of creamer, 2 Arginine, and water during exercising.
This protocol is working very well for me. Let's use the last meal of the evening for our energy. I find more mental focus.
basskiller89I lifted twice last week and PR'd, I have been having more success with less training and less overall frequency at this point in my cycle, previously in my life it's been the opposite, intuitive lifting I believe is more important depending upon where you are at in development
As you mentioned I do cardio on an empty stomach. however, when it comes to weights I find i need to carb up a bit to maintain heavy lifts. On an empty stomach I can't push the weights and feel catabolic.
I think it kinda depends on our individual metabolisms. I have a very high metabolism so training without a good carb/protein load is misery for me and I feel like I only get half the workout, if that. But with a good load of fast and slow carbs and healthy dose of protein my workouts are intense - heavier weight, more reps, more sets and have to make myself leave the gym vs barely finishing dragging ass out feeling beaten and frustrated. 150 grams of carbs (dextrose, maltodextrose, and steel cut oats) a banana, and 30-40 grams of protein before my morning workout gets the job done for me.
It depends on training style and goals. I think you can maintain or cut with fasted training. In terms of putting on mass I don’t think you’re going to be able to hit the loads or volume necessary to really progress. Maybe adding in some liquid carbs could help but 3-4 meals are always good to have in you before maximal effort.
I've also tried this fasting strategy. I couldn't really give it my best (in the big three), I noticed dizziness and a drop in energy.
I prefer to choose two days a month, preferably after meals. I agree
I train within 15 minutes of waking up. I used to do a protein drink first but I’ve cut my protein back. I haven’t noticed a difference either way.
Surprisingly I haven’t noticed any decreased size on the lower consumption. My calf size has actually increased some.
Having said that I’m in my mid 50s and have been training several decades. Could be different for a younger guy.
Dude Sam, you're in the best years. Enjoy them
If I couldn’t get in food before weight training I wouldn’t even bother going to the gym. I need the right amount of nutrition to power myself through the work out and push myself to the next level. There’s a big difference between just lifting the weights and pushing yourself.
Brother, did you notice a difference in strength? In this case, you also need to see what you eat in the evening as your last meal before you go to bed.
See I’m the other way if I even eat 1 cup of oatmeal I’m done for I have to train empty well I’ll drink a glass of milk before but I like to train eat then nap and then eat through the day
Oatmeal would so that to me as well. I stick with fruit like a banana or some strawberries and some peanut butter.
Sometimes I train in the afternoon and if I eat something before I prefer only meat or fish, in the end I always add dried fruit such as nuts or almonds. If I eat carbohydrates it's the end. It is also true that metabolism plays an important role, and mine is 40 years old. But the engine still works well lol
Cardio I’ll do first thing in the morning fasted, but doing full body lifts like squats and deadlifts make me lightheaded if I do them on an empty stomach. Gotta have something on my stomach first
If I eat before I train I’m sloppy and cut out early I get exhausted fast it feels better for me to eat after training
When I train in the afternoon after eating even 3 hours before I feel lazy.
Sometimes we are fooled by habits. Clearly each case is different, there are work, family or other problems.
We need to know more about our own metabolism and energy pantries.
IanMcqueenI usually prefer to train right in the morning after a run for about 30 mins then I eat my 6 eggs and 1 cup of oatmeal with a banana and apple in it. After that I gear up to go train. I’ve always needed something in my stomach before training or I crash hard. I’ve also been doing the 20 gummy bears right after working out to spike my insulin. Seems to be working well so far. Old school Jay Culter use to drink a soda right after his workout to spike his insulin. I’m afraid to try that only cause how bad soda is for you. Well off subject there but yeah I like having something in my stomach before working out.
You are afraid to have a soda after a workout because it's bad for you - But yet you cycle steroids? Lmao ....
So much funny stuff on here.
lol