Diet for a 14 year old
So the other day my 14 year old nephew and his Dad come to me and tells me that he wants to get bigger. He is 6-1 and maybe 125 lbs soaking wet. He asks about Protien shakes and Creatine etc. I told him that I would work out a diet for him. He's a good athelete and fairly driven. He lifts weights with his football team. Unfortunately, he is growing so tall, so fast that he just can't keep weight on. He is built about like a piece of licorish.
With that being said, does anyone have any suggestions of do or do nots for a kid this age? Is the standard 2 grams of protein per kg harmful on a kid? I don't want to screw this kid up with bad advise. I do have hope for him, his older brother eventually filled out who also was built like him.
Help a brother out.
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Simple, eat everything in sight at the age of 14. The added bonus is usually mum & dad have to pick up the grocery bill ;)
14 years ? Maybe too young for such a diet, considering that the growing process is not finished.
Anonbefore you flame me for what i'm about to say keep in mind he's already 6'1"
...and i'm just saying what i wish i had done at his age:
go on cycle of test and deca. 250mg/wk each.
why?
'cause he's already tall as shit so no worries about stopping growth plates.
'cause testosterone levels directly affect many of the things that define you as a man; such as size and shape, hairiness, penis size (damn i wish i'd started at 14! bet you all agree on this for that same reason!)
'cause he'll probably do it at some point anyways. if he's an athlete right now he'll have a better shot at getting into college on a athletic scholarship if he's better than the rest.
i'm just saying...
i know the general consensus is wait until you're 25-ish and have already maxed out your natural body weight... but if i had it to do all over again... i'd say fuck that bullshit, i want a huge dick! haha!
seriously, don't flame. i'm only kidding... sort of...
Telling a 14 year to go on a cycle? You obviously have no clue about AAS or the serious damage it would do to a teenager later in life. You are a fuckin idiot.
Supernova283Your hormones are in flux when you're younger. They have a direct effect on brain development as well.
Telling a 14 year old to shut off his HPTA and possibly never recover is stupid.
Having high test doesn't make your penis bigger just as having high test doesn't mean your hairline is going to fade.
A lot of that shit is genetic. It's in the chromosomes. It's not all dictated by testosterone.
Your brain development is directly linked to these hormones though. Causing such a huge spike in testosterone and estrogen is probably going to fuck him up mentally and emotionally.
The reason people wait till they're 25 is because of brain development and because that's when most peoples test levels start to flatline. If he spikes his test his body might believe that he's reached his peak and will only produce what he is producing at 14 as his test flatline.
If you're kidding fine, but if you're at all serious about this I think you need to take another look at why people are told to wait. It isn't just because the estrogen spike causes growth plate closure.
sgtstedankoIf i could go back. I'd be drinking/eating tons of whole Goats milk, quinoa, & whole wheat pasta. I've got a post w/lots of diet stuff. It should help. casein b4 bed...
http://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/workout-exercise/the...
56tooU might want to pm The Vike, he knows a lot about that. He has adviced me b4 concerning my 14 yo son.
Young guy who is that thin and wants to gain weight? I'd say add a gallon of whole milk per day if he's lifting heavy weights. That's how I first gained weight when I was scrawny. Gallon of whole milk, as much food as possible (eat til it hurts), and heavy compound lifts.
Eat to grow!
Protein is nothing to worry over, and creatine has never been studied enough to know whether or not it can interfere with a teenager's natural growth. I would hold off on that until 18 just because there is no evidence either way, but protein shakes are no problem. Just feed the hell out of him and make sure he drinks his water and not just a whole bunch of sugary Gatorade or something. Also, you never know... He might catch up with his height around 16 and gain 20-30 pounds in a year's time. The average girl slows down a bit by 14, but the average boy doesn't even slow down until around 16... And we all know he won't even be done then. Just set up a solid diet and he should be good to go.
Of course, I don't mean give him a 5k calorie diet or anything. I'd probably go for 1g protein/lb. I'm not sure any more than that would be necessary. If he is only 125 lbs to begin with, he should be able to benefit from that.
Ed it's really 2 grams per kg of body weight (that means if you give him 2 gm per lb that would be 250 gm. The rule is 2 per kg that's roughly 56.7 x 2 for 113 gm so roughly 137 gm more than he can handle), and yes too much protein could hurt him. Overdosing protein is like rubbing sandpaper over your kidneys and in prolonged cases can lead to ketosis. Also the general rule of thumb for the average person is 32 gm per sitting so anything more than that is not absorbed or used. It's generally pissed away. To put it into perspective he would have to eat 9 chicken breasts a day to get 250 gm to 4 chicken breasts for 113 gm. Good luck
Right. Good catch. I even corrected my spelling error.
the best thing to do is to make him a moderate meal plan, start with less the a g of protein per pound. I would stay away from creatine at his age, but could add some L-g to his post shakes. At his age, and size i would say the carbs are gonna be the most beneficial to him. Try out a moderate amount of protein, with a good amount of carbs, then ofcourse your fats etc.... have him try that for a bit see how his body reacts to it and make adjustments from there.... Like any of us, gotta see what works for HIS body. Keeping in mind his age, and staying away from most supps, he really shouldnt need them right now.....
dont quote me on this but i think at young ages like 14, kids need .55 or .65 grams per pound. id like to say im positive but im not sure.
thats standard, i forgot to mention, so i honestly wouldnt see any harm in maybe increasing it to 1g per lb. hopefully experts chime in, sorry i couldnt help more brotha.