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+ 1 Winter Bulk Test/DECA

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Just wanted some thoughts and ideas on a cycle Ive been researching.

Background:
6'2
Start weight 170lb soaking wet ectomorph long distance runner
210lb naturally
Todays weight after 3 cycles 230lb at 12-13% bf
24years old- 8years of training experience/ 3 total AAS cycles
1.Test C 500mg x10week
2.Test E 600mg x14 EQ 500 x12
3. Test E 600mg x12 Deca 400 x 10
Diet: Strict during cycling for clean gains, off I am still strict but I cheat.

Cycle of Interest:

1-4 NPP 75mg EOD
1-4 Test P 150mg EOD
1-14 Test E 600mg
1-12 Deca 400mg
12-16 Test P 150 EOD
Arimex .5 EOD
Post Cycle
Nolva 40/40/20/20 two days after last Prop Pin

Im looking to put on some serious mass over the winter, my schedule is wide open and it the best time. If you guys could check it out and give some suggestion or criticism. Also anyone recommend any workout routine that has worked for them. I know low reps/high sets/heavy weight but more specifically. THanks guys

BJD

AASaddict's picture

Id personally advise you add some HCG bro from week 9-17 (at 500ius x2 a week) to just b4 your pct begins, entering pct with raisin nuts isn't the best and you'll recover better with plumped up balls then without bro, hopefully more kept gains and a nicer pct experience.

where's your caber ?

Id also throw in another serm and some aromasin to you pct.

Nice cycle bro and good luck..

michiganpokerguy's picture

dam son...

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

I am going to give you +3 karma for an intelligent well thought out and written post, i am not going to tear it apart or flame you in any way brother if you have been a long distance runner you already know about commitmant and heart and soul training already... take the guys advice for a stronger more efficient PCT yours is a little weak for a long and short ester beasting like you are planning.. good luck with this cycle come back with some results bro ok.

Bigjuicydung619's picture

Thanks Viking, I appreciate everybody's 2cents. Much needed and will be doing more homework before I start the building process.

OmNom's picture

Eh if your going to use npp I would just use npp and say screw the deca since it's going to linger in your system much longer than needed. Bit young to be playing with deca too. Like every one said if you go this route get caber or prami

fast48's picture

Wonder if he'd think bout switching to basic dbol/test e cycle. Still wet bulk without the deca sides.

OmNom's picture

Yeah that's basically the bread and butter for bulking.. I think it's a better idea than a 19nor that young especially with no caber in sight

Wrath's picture

Listen to fast48 about that cabergoline, you dont want to start lactating, or do you? Also high levels of prolactin can delay your recovery.

fast48's picture

PCT need help or no recovery. Hcg last 8 weeks @ 500iu split
Clomid 100...100...50..50

THe nolva is your nipple estro blocker but the clomid is what wakes your balls up. THe hcg on cycle prevents the ball from shrivelling and forcing the clomid to work harder. The harder they have to work....the longer the recover past the pct use.

CABER IS MANDATORY!!!! Prolactin gyno is very different than estro gyno and requires a different medicine to fight it. Adex doesnt kill the prolactin...Get that caber!!

Bigjuicydung619's picture

thanks fast, interesting stuff. Learn something new everyday...looks like Im doing more research. Thanks

OmNom's picture

2x even with hcg and pct he won't recover right without running caber the entire time

HllwdBdBoy's picture

that's a great cycle lil bro, but my concern is 3cycles @24.... Hope ur getting bloods done?

Bigjuicydung619's picture

hey hllwdbdboy thanks for the reply, where do you recommend getting bloods done and what should I be on the lookout for. Also anything online I should read up on about blood work? THanks