Wanting to Step it up.
I'm currently running a Test-E, Eq cycle. I want to take my game to the next level and wanted some opinions as to which compound(s) I could add to really set shit off. I'm going for a complete recomp with my end game being; larger, faster, stronger, leaner. Being lean isn't the number one item on my list because no matter how lean I get I'll always have excess skin to deal with in a surgical setting. I'd like to be leaner, anyways. I'd like an athletic build I suppose you'd say. Or maybe even Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. Usable strength that I'll be able to hang onto at the end of the cycle, hence my choice of Eq.
Protocol so far:
16 week cycle planned. I'm into week 3 now.
Test-E 800mg EW
Eq 1200mg frontload, 600mg EW
Anadrol kick start-2 weeks. 8 days @50mg/day then 6 days @100mg/day.
I have Var for last half of cycle.
HCG 250iu E3D
No Pct planned as I'm a TRT guy.
Should I add Dbol at a low dose ED? Any help or comments would be greatly appreciated.
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GearofWarThanks for all of the input guys. There are some heavy hitters here dropping truth on me. I needed to be reeled in. I was becoming very impatient. I shouldn't keep extra gear around, it's too tempting to want to try it out. I've got some Tren Ace from Muta put way on the back burner for a later time and frame of mind. I actually had the wife hide it. It's hard to take it slowly because its all new and exciting. I want to know what it feels like to be on the different compounds. I want to be able to give advice based on experience, and be active and involved in the community with the guys. I like to be able to relate. I realize that(hopefully) most guys won't knock me for not having used every compound and still carry credibility too. I hate feeling weak in the gym too. I want to be a big boy line you guys...I hate that I waited into my 30's to start AAS. Years of youth and genetic potential wasted. I need to settle down, trust in my training, clean the diet and hope it all falls in line. I suppose there's still plenty of time to try all the other roids out there in future cycles. Thanks for grounding me bros.
RustyhookerNot wasted at all bro! I started at 28...now 42. Vike is a monster and older. Simply starting a new journey and its all bout longevity...not burnout.
Brother how i read this thread is that you getting somewhat impatient!... please please read how much i preach about equipoise being the patient mans steroid of choice... brother at this early stage the gear as not kicked into its full potential just yet, no way am i going to prescribe any other orals or compounds at this stage... what we have here with this run is an easy shoot and forget pinning regime which in my mind allows you to more fully concentrate on the diet and training with the compounds doing thier work in background, by my reckoning results will be clearly visible around week 10 with this stack the reason why i extended to 16wks is to drag futher gains out at the end and even carry on to result for approx 4wks after the cycle ceases!.. thats the theory behind the specific cycle planned here!.. adding compounds that are notorious for water retention is a big NO NO for you at any stage due to the amount of adipose tissue and loose skin that you currently carry.... that will just act like a fkn big sponge for water and cloud any gains made, you understand were i am coming from here bro i hope... with you we MUST concentrate on using dry compounds at all times due to your own specific physique type..... we also must be looking for a near sodium free diet with little to zero proccessed foods to further control salt intake..... please bear in mind untill we can remove or tighten some of your slack salt is your greatest enemy with sugars not running far behind in second place.
Get a grip brother... trust the compounds especially EQ but most of all BE PATIENT.. i promise this is the way forwards in your situation brother
Not a good idea from a health stand point one oral per cycle. Unless you want to damage your liver
RustyhookerDont add dbol unless you wanna swell to huge water bag. Also, your test/eq amounts are already at bulker level yet you want Hugh Jackman who's really skinny but ripped? Whats your prior gears used, bf and end results?
Buildbigger86X 2 on the dbol comment. You have serious water retention and with 800mg of test eth a week already you will have so much water weight broth.
RustyhookerThank you sir! Its just so eady to eant the mix to get the boom but the cost in the long run....
GearofWarEven low-dose Dbol will blow you up badly huh? Maybe I used the wrong example with Hugh Jackman. I was actually pretty skinny under all that extra skin before I started TRT(171lbs). I'll never "look" skinny because of how much extra skin I have from so much weight lost. I have no idea how to get an accurate assessment of BF because of my unique skin situation. I've blasted and cruised with Test a few times before and results were good, I'd say. I'm just at a point and in a competition with another member here to really go wild. Push ourselves.
RustyhookerI just read your bio. This appears to be your first cycle? You've kinda jumped in with both feet and going nuts with too many compounds. I see no use of ai listed? Gyno stops for noone. Or is ai just not listed? You also kick started with adrol wich converts heavily to estro and bloats. Slow the roll bro.
Is this correct?
1-16 test e 800
1-14 eq 600?
GearofWarI have Aromasin which I use not very often, because I'm just not gyno prone. No sore nips, itchy nips, or bloat. I've actually only had test bloat once which the Aromasin knocked out. I also have a-dex on hand along with caber for any and all complications. The only thing I don't have is letro.
1-16 Eq, Test
I understand your concern for my inexperience. I appreciate it as well. The Eq, and Test dosages and lengths were actually endorsed by Viking. Suppose the Eq/Test should do me just fine.
RustyhookerHave your estro tested at week 6. Not being gyno prone so far isn't telling what estro is doing for inhibiting gains. High estro outside of the norm will stop gains.
Vike has great skills. If your goal is more defined then run it by him on lowering test to half the ladt 4 Weeks. If you're adding muscle bulk then of course keep test high for extra bulk. But adding var, dbol etc isn't going to add more at this time. Dbol was replaced with drol as kicker. Adding var or a finisher isn't useful with high test. Not properly using your ai halts gains. Please contact vike and get his input.
Buildbigger86X 2 AGAIN ON THIS ONE RUSTY. Gear- Rusty really knows what he is taking about is has great knowledge of this community we are involved in. It is ALWAYS A MUST to run an AL. I understand your stating your not prone to GYNO but what would it hurt to be on the safe side and just run 12.5mg of Aromasin ED. It can only work for you in a positive way not a negative one.