Tren, Lethargy, T3, and Alternatives?
I'm into week 3, almost week 4 of my Tren-E run. I'm dosing the Tren at 400mg EW, split dosing. The Tren is dosed out at 400mg/ml (if that has any bearing on this issue at all). I'm also running a Prop kicker at 150mg EOD, and Eq at 600mg EW. Now on to my issue at hand; First time running with Tren of the Enanthate variety and I'm TIRED as all hell. I've run the top source's Tren-Ace and it was all good at 75mg ED. Never tired. Only sides really were occasional shortness of breath, mild BPH, and extreme perspiration when exerting modest energy. I'm wore out now though. I sleep like a stone at night and want to sleep especially mid-day everyday. It's getting to the point where it's affecting my work, and workout motivation. I have no other sides at all. I run Caber at .5mg E3D. I've heard T3 levels can dip from Tren and cause this very issue, but I'm not very keen on supplementing with T3, although I do have some on-hand. Is there anything else you guys can think of that may wake my arse up other than T3? And if I do NEED to use T3 what's the bare minimum amount required to rid this lethargy? I'm just not a fan of fuk'n with my thyroid if I don't absolutely have to. As always, thanks in advance.
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Please bro.... do not fall into the trap like all these other thick cunts and start taking more and more gear to counteract what ever problems are associated etc...... simple answer here is that tren dont agree with your body systems, SO!... fucking stop using it simple!!
If something/anything does not agree with my body it simply gets binned, i totally refuse to keep adding shit to counteract... what fun is there in HAVING to keep pumping tons of other shit into your body when you can simply take away one compound and re-balance yourself so that you feel great ALL of the time NOT just some of the time.
Thats the answer.... take it or fkn leave it, your choice!!
GearofWarI was afraid of that. It's fucked because I didn't think the difference in ester
would drastically change my overall experience with Tren. Ace was the balls for me, and I felt pretty damn fine on it. If this doesn't resolve itself in a weeks time I suppose I'll have to drop this compound, which is a damned shame because if lethargy is the worst side I get from Tren I feel lucky compared with all of the horror stories I've ever read. It just so happens to be a side that I cannot abide due to work safety issues, and nearly nodding off on the job. I feel like I'm back in the old bad days when I'd buy a bundle of H and get on the nod. Bad, bad memories. Was really looking for a holistic remedy or the like rather than adding more harsh chemical compounds. I mean if I really was determined to stay awake I can think of a few "other" things that used to work really well at keeping me awake back in the old "bad days" I had mentioned. But that part of my life is over, thank God. Thanks for the honest reply as always.
Brother... we tend to softly "stroke" poodles!... but we tend pat "fairly hard" with a pitbull!....... that is the reason i sounded harsh on that post, i knew i could steal your attention that way>
GearofWarAbsolutely understand everything that you're saying. Above all others here I tend to value and take heed the advice you've meted out. It may not always be the answer I WANT to hear but I know that it's typically the right answer backed with years of experience. So that means I'll be going back to Test-E and Eq.
I get on fine with tren ace, tren e makes me feel like a bag of shit. As a result, I don't run it as I don't enjoy the cycle.
All part of the AAS game mate, find what works for you and what doesn't.
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Brother Viking,
Is there somewhere I could talk to you real quick about T3 and Tren without encouraging folk to mess around with their Thyroid and invite disaster?
GearHead
yeah.. i just added you bro, good call on not talking about this here due to things being so mis-conceived and everybody jumping on a T3 band wagon without all the facts and proper protocols in place, i tell ya now bro i have no love for that shit so expect only a negative approach from me.
Viking I have a question too bro about t3 can I talk to you as well.
Using anything to control estro?
GearofWarYes I am. I have Adex, and Aromasin. I've been dosing Aromasin at 12.5mg EOD because I'm not gyno prone and that dose has always been my sweet spot.
I just tried this which is OTC so don't think I'm a troll... But Mass HGH has me waking up a bit groggy but awake as fucking hell. I wish I would have used this stuff from the beginning of my LIFE!!! Omg... Crazy difference... I'd try it to say the least since it's only like 30$.... It's from Lecheek
Edit: I've tried to force myself to a nap on this stuff before, since I needed to close, and I couldn't fall asleep if you gave me a free vial of tren.. (Edit..) Or a nordipen..
ClassyChassisMight be sleep apnea, which can be increased by androgens. The usual suspect if you find yourself wanting to sleep during the day. If you sleep on your back, sleeping on your side might help alleviate it a bit.
GearofWarI thought of that first off my brother, so I had my wife monitor any snoring, wheezing, or gasping. Back when I was a fat shit I would snore but never had apnea, as I'd been sent home with the test machine and Cpap a few times and always came away clear. The wifey says I'm not doing anything of the sort again. Thanks for the suggestion.