+ 1 Wanting to add Primo
Am doing TRT now, at 160mg/week with 40mgs of DHT split between Prop and Enanthate.
Cutting at the moment, preparing to go into a growth phase as I get down to a low enough bodyfat %.
I have Primo E that I will add on top of increasing my dose of Test and I understand everyone aromatises differently and feeling into the right ratio. But my real question is -
Do I add in a bolus dose of Primo E right away or do I just dose it, let's say 1:1 with test every other day? Since I'm already on test, increasing the test dose using prop and isocap should raise my estrogen quite a bit as well (I aromatise quite a lot) and thus my question of using a bolus of Primo E to sort of "catch up" with the increasing estrogen.
If not, I'll just use Aromasin until my Primo dose is adequate to do its job as an AI without it.
Thank you.
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If I’m understanding correctly you’re using test p and primo e and the mismatched esters are where you’re getting worried?
Personally for a bulk I’d just get more test e/c so esters are the same and then just let both rip at 2:1 or whatever ratio (I like 5:4 but YMMV).
I would start with a 2:1 test/primo ratio. Do that for 4 weeks and adjust based off of labs.
1:1 ratio is for higher dosages, or if you have a high bf%.
If you start with 1:1 and are wrong, you are gonna crash your E2. That’s the worse
Ok so for 300 test you would say 150 primo and feel into it. I can and will test but I've also learned to feel when my E2 is about to go too high. Facial flushing is the first sign, its quite clear when it happens. Moodiness comes after if I dont act on the facial/head flushes.
Thanks
Im not super clear on your cycle/situation but... it seems like youre on a low dose... you should be fine running the test/primo 1/1. Only way to really know for sure is to do labwork mid cycle and see if you need an Ai. Although I doubt you will, can only be certain with labs.
If you want better advice, try explaining your cycle a little more clearly. Im confused on your compounds and dosing protocol. I read youre using test prop, test e, test iso, and DHT? Are you running 160mg of test total a week or every other day? You kinda lost me. Maybe im just reading it wrong.
I use 160mg test a week now, 50/50 prop/isocaproate, with 40mg of DHT which is 50/50 prop and enanthate. Taking 12.5mgs of aromasin eod. Still got some body fat.
This is what I'm on right now and will be on during the rest of my cut.
What I am asking about is my bulk basically. Where I'll be upping my test and adding primo E. Aiming for 20-30 weeks. Now I'm happy to hear any advice on this, but my original question was about the initial phase of adding in the primo(dht will be taken out at this time), and if a bolus (big dose) of Primo in 1 shot would be a good way to start or just add it in every other day with the test like I do now.
Basically unsure of the best way to quickly dial it in until aromasin becomes redundant.
Hope it clears it up somewhat lol
160mg test/ 80 primo, ideally mix it with your test. ALWAYS start low then work your way up… who knows, 80 might be too much actually.
Drop your AI around day 10-12, blood work 4 weeks later, and then make adjustments
Would you add primo in on a cut?
If so I could add it in now and use 2:1 to start and dial it in, so that when I bulk I have an idea of ratios. Although with more bf % lost there would still be a ratio that would require less primo to be dialed in.
But my thought is that it would perhaps be less volatile to start this way instead of raising test and adding primo in at once when its time to bulk.
Primo is ideally used in a cut because it retains lean muscle in a calorie deficit (all aas technically does but primo is really good at it).
Start low. It’s easier to add than take away.
If you are set on adding primo, then this is the way to do it. Start small, learn how your body reacts then make adjustments
Will do so then, thanks for the advice.