Test e & Eq cycle
I'm 3 weeks post my very successful 10 week test e, tren e, eq cycle and planning to start a new cycle in another 6 or 7 weeks. I got up to 286lbs but I've lost a lot of water in the last couple of weeks to leave me at a solid 270lbs.
I was thinking of leaving out the tren and going with just test e and eq for a couple of reasons:
I've got a lot of test e and eq,
no tren side effects.
My prolactin only got up to 4 (<30) but I was sweating at night and sleeping no more than 6 hours.
I told my wife that the tren seemed to agree with me.
She said that everyone had to agree with me when I was on tren! Ha ha!!
She's right and I love her.
She does all my injections in my glutes and does a better job than a nurse.
I was thinking two dosing regimes based on the 3mL injections my glutes tolerate really well.
250mg test e & 400mg eq once a week.
Likely to be very little problems with estrogen and convenient once weekly injections that fit in with the travel I do for work on weekdays.
250mg test e & 400mg eq twice a week.
Easily controlled estrogen and faster gains than once a week.
With either cycle I was thinking maybe 13 to 16 weeks.
As for PCT I plan to use HCG like I am now.
Tren shrunks my balls so much my wife can fit them in her mouth now!
I started using the HCG a week after my last shot because of the loooong half life of eq.
I'm not going to start with tamoxifen and clomiphene for another couple of weeks yet when I stop the HCG.
Assuming this works this time I'll do it with the next cycle too.
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LMFAO!!! Viking and irongame you guys have me Rollin on the damn floor laughing at this thread. Seriously that was great.
1ups on almost all that dialogue.
it sounds like there is a few things that you know and few things that you dont. just a heads up that EQ didnt start kicking in till week 7-8, stopping it at 10 was a waste of money.
the most important thing i notice in all this is your time off before going back on cycle, its pretty short. general rule of thumb is time on(10weeks)+PCT(with EQ ester 3 weeks off then start PCT)=time off. so 10weeks + 3weeks off + 4 weeks PCT =17weeks until start of next cycle. unless you have a starting blood test to compare with, and you take a blood test sometime after PCT and your natty is back to normal.
keep in mind your 40 not 20 anymore, recovery is not so easy and tren is very suppressive...
So lets adress this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^first, then talk about another cycle in the future!
and if you got pics we would love to see 270 @15%
AnonI did a 4 week cycle of 2mL Sustanon 250 a week at the end of last year.
I just used anastrozole during and for 6 weeks after because it was such a short cycle to test how my body responded.
It went well and really showed me how AAS could focus my training.
Two months post cycle my test was 7.8nmol/L (8-30) and two weeks after that it was finally within range (at the low end) at 9.0nmol/L.
So 10 weeks after the last cycle I'm betting my test will be low again, but because I'm over 40 I can qualify for government subsidised TRT in Oz.
It's about US$35 for an injection of testosterone undecanoate every 3 months.
Cheap and it should keep my test in range.
Then again, in another couple of months my natural test may be in range again.
Only blood tests will tell...
I think my attitude to training at 40 is so much better than when I was younger.
I hit 6'3" when I was 13 and haven't been under 220lbs since I finished high school.
Going from 240 to 270lbs in the last year has been easy.
I'd love to post some pics but I sell instruments for an S&P 500 company in Oz and Asia and there's no way I'd risk anyone recognising me for the money I make.
My boss is Chinese and he told me when I started that I'd do well in Asia because I was a big white guy.
Works for me!
I'd like to hit 300lbs next year and my wife tells me she thinks I can do it with my frame without looking too freaky.
I'll just be the REALLY big white guy.
like I said, you might know a couple things, but its about enough to be dangerous to yourself. You dont have a clue what your doing with esters, once again you show that with a 4 weeks sust cycle.
supposedly you just got done running test and EQ, but your on here asking when to pin the compounds? thats slightly confusing, how do you not know that?
your natty now, 40 years old, ran 2 shitty planed and probably pinned cycles, the last one hasnt even cleared your system yet and your ready to go on TRT like its no problem? WTF sounds like your 20 years old! who the fuck works for S&P 500 but is that stupid?
So im sure with that well paying company you wear suits all day, post some pictures of the legs then, you keep making reference to your size like that should be enough for us to give you information, so shit or get off the pot. we get enough make believe stories around here, we dont need no more.
Oh yes and let me just add this, looking at your profile I see you posted this train wreck of a cycle 2 months ago and you know what you said in that forum post
may 1st that was posted, so to add up all the weeks, thats roughly ten. you have been off for 3, which means you either ran a 7 week cycle, or was 3 weeks into it when you posted. lets assume 3 weeks into it. you ran test, EQ, and Tren-e, they would have barely even started working when you put up your cycle in may. then after 7 weeks when the compound should have been working you gained 4 pounds? thats about the shittiest results you could have....and your ready to go on TRT LMAO....your a joke bud scram
Something familiar about how the op writes.
Previously banned member?
dont know but hes about to be a newly banned member
LOL.........I love it :/
If he posted pictures someone would notice him... I smell a poser.
Ya I'm with you. If you do the math at 17% at 286lbs meaning he has 237lbs of lbm. So in theory he could be like 255lbs at 8%bf which is a god damn monster. I call bullshit.
AnonThat's right. No photos.
So... Once a week or twice a week with the test e and eq?
Anyone?
Fkn twice man god damn it's test e the ester is not that long it you should Know this. When do you plan on starting.
AnonI was thinking of using the eq for growth and a smaller dose of test e just to keep my test levels up.
The question was really if 250mg test e and 400mg eq once a week would be any good for gains without needing to worry much about estrogen or whether I should pin it twice a week and use some anastrozole.
I dont know .......... i only use creatine,...... i believe that produces better gains than 400mg of EQ once pr week......... but! i could be wrong, i hear these steroids are potent things in the right hands, i might try some out some day,,, maybe after i reach my genetic potential.
EQ... ? is that for sheep or pigs?............ sure i read that somewhere.
Vike you don't stack?? My favorite stack is 10g creatine ed with 15g gluatime ed. Its more of a wet bulkier but if you worried about water retention go with creatine ethyl ester, pretty sure thats what dorian used for contest prep it won't bloat you.
Scared shitless of stacking bro............ i dont want to get big and bulky, it will fk up my ass-thetics lol
Dude thats why you just don't lift heavy weights. that will get you big and bulking but if you do light weight high reps it will just get you nice and toneeee.
Uuuuuh... you mean ive been luggin all this ass heavy shit around all these years and i could have gone light and got to my ideal weight of around 140/150lbs to look all tight N shit :((
Yup, you've been doing It all wrong my friend. But in all seriousness, girls my age don't want arnold, they want that little skinny faggot from twilight. . I just don't get it. How you gonna weigh less then your girl.
Well fuck me sideways!........... gonna have to diet hard get down under 200 and get my hair gel shit out to get looking like that white skinned faggot vampire dude.
How da fuk do i lose 60lbs+ in a few weeks ??
at 6'1 your gonna have to be about 160 MAX to appeal to these confused girls. So were talking what close to 80-100llbs you gotta lose. I would suggest becoming a drug addict. Check out my before pics on my profile, thats what a few years of drugs and partying will do to you. I could definitely give you some tip lol.
Sheeeeeet................ now you got me really confuzed :(
I'm more worried about your current pct bro. Can you layout how your cycle went and where you're at now like
Weeks 1-16 eq
Week 1-xx test
And where your at now compared to your last injection and what that injection was. It just doesn't sound very set in stone right now. And 16lbs is a lot of "water" to lose.
AnonMy last cycle was 10 weeks of test e, tren e and eq.
I've read a lot about PCT and used a link posted on eroids to a PCT calculator.
Due to the long half life of eq (about 2 weeks) the PCT calculator said I should start PCT 45 days after my last shot.
Yep! You read that right. 45 days.
But given that most people on this site say 1 or 2 weeks after your last shot to start PCT I thought I'd start the tamoxifen and clomiphene 5 weeks after my last shot.
So I waited a week after my last shot to start HCG at 1000 twice a week and I've been doing that for 2 weeks.
I'll do that for 2 more weeks then start the standard 40/40/20/20 & 100/100/50/50.
It's been 3 weeks since my last shot of test e, tren e and eq and I've still got oily skin, acne on my back and I wife I nail every day.
Trust me, my androgen level is not so low that I need PCT just yet.
As for losing 16lbs I had been controlling my estrogen on cycle with tamoxifen.
I switched to anastrozole when I started the HCG because it induces expression of aromatase in the testis.
I had a passport photo taken a couple of months ago and in it I had a big round moonface.
Now my head looks like a brick again.
I don't think all 16lbs was water because I've slowly been shedding fat but yeah, I lost 16lbs in 3 weeks.
I'm still 270lbs and I don't think I've lost any significant amount of muscle.
So if my current HCG then PCT protocol works my next cycle will probably go like this:
weeks 1-13 eq
weeks 1-16 test e
week 17 nothing
weeks 18-21 HCG
weeks 22-25 PCT
I'll probably stick with anastrozole to control estrogen while I'm on cycle if I use the higher dose of test e and eq and that brings me back to my original post.
Test e 250mg & eq 400mg once or twice a week?
Ok well your right that pct calculator is pretty close, but thats why you run the test a few weeks past the eq like you did, so I personally would have waited about 18 days after my last test e injection to start pct. I would have started hcg 14 days before i was scheduled to start pct and then used hcg 1000iu eod for 10 days so i would be stoping 4 days before pct. Next you were not controlling your estrogen on cycle with tamoxifen. Not sure who told you or wherer you read that nolva does anything for lowering estrogen, Nolva is a selective estrogen receptor modulator, which means it selectively binds to the estrogen receptors in the breast tissue so no free floating estrogen can bind and cause gyno, it doesnt actually lower or "control? estrogen in any way. And you also missed a pretty basic piece of information to not ever use nolva when on 19-nors like tren or deca. and Only 13 weeks of EQ? way to short man. I think you kinda jumped the gun on this cycle, and how many cycles have your previously done?
And bottom line, 18 days after your last test e injection you need to start pct. I hope you didnt stop the eq the same time as the test cause that test is gonna clear but the eq is gonna linger and and keep you suppressed and feeling like shit.
AnonI used the tamoxifen to control gyno and because its an estrogen agonist in the liver its supposed to improve your lipid profile.
Before my last cycle my LDL:HDL was 5.
On cycle and even with starting simvastatin and tamoxifen it went to 30!
I have anastrozole but if I'd used it my lipids would have been even worse!
So I bloated on cycle but I didn't get gyno.
I lost the water and now I'm a solid 270lbs.
My cycle history is in my stats. I updated them yesterday before I posted.
So... Test e and eq once a week or twice a week?