Test E and Proviron Advice
Hello all, I am 3 weeks into my first real cycle ever. I have done Tbol solo before several months ago but not a real cycle. Before I started this cycle I was on a Tbol / Delta 2 stack for 4 weeks and It helped me drop som fat and helped harden me up and boost my strength. I planned on running it throught the first few weeks of my test e but I was getting massive hedaches (not bp related, I checked several times. Since this was my first time using test, I wanted to see how my body reacted so week 1 I did 250 mg, week 2 was 375 mg and week 3 was also 375 mg. as I said before I droped som BF and weight before cycle so my starting weight was 228 (down from 235) pounds and as of today I am at 240 so thats a gain of 12 pounds in 3 weeks.
I planned on doing 10 weeks of 375 mg but now I am going to do 12 weeks total at 500 mg for the rest of the cycle divided into two 250 mg shots. I was thinking about adding 25 mg a day of proviron for the last part of the the ycle. Maybe the last 6 weeks or so. Thanks for any advice.
PS. I am 35 years old and have been lifting for several years off and on (2 years hard) and have done tons of research before starting this. I have Nolva for pct and I am taking various other supplements (toco 8, fish oil, flaxseed oil, multi vitamin with niacin ect...) I am eating about 3500 to 4000 calories a day (80% clean), 250-300 grams of protein and like 2 gallons of water and getting plenty of rest. I work out 5 days a week for at least 1 hour a day.
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Thanks for the responses. I read a lot about proviron and how it works well with test so that's why I got it. I know it frees up more test and also works as an weak ai and hardens u up all at the same time with almost zero sides. And yes I agree 100% on keeping it simple that's why im just running test now and not tren and deca and dbol all at once like some lunatics do.
I wanted to see how my body responded to the test so that's why I started at 250 mg and then 375 mg. I didn't want to over do it right out the box. I can always get more test but I wanted to keep my cycle under 10 week so that's why I was asking if it would be better if I did 7 more weeks at 375 mg or 5 more weeks at 500 mg.
I do not have another ai on hand since I am not doing a high dose / long cycle. I am tall and lean (6' 8") and probably will never bloat or have gyno. At this dose proviron should keep the bloat off if I get any at all. And I have read and heard too many horror stories about clomid and its side effects so that's why the nolva but if I had to I can use erase and or hcgenerate.
HardLuck13I appreciate the info on your reasoning for doing what your doing. I honestly think the proviron could help a bit since you don't have an AI on hand. Be careful my friend in assuming that you might not get bloat or gyno. I say that only because I've seen horror stories happen to friends of mine.
I would run the test @ 500mg wk and make a small order to get you through your cycle. 500mg is a moderate dose and one in which many users find works well.
6'8"!!!! Freak status:-) Best wishes Toot!
HardLuck13Ike has it down pat regarding the proviron. Great stuff but for a first cycle i always say K.I.S.S. Keep it simple stupid:-) Why complicate the cycle as much as you have? I'll assume the dosages are varied due to a limited amount of Test E. Otherwise you should definitely run Test E @ 500mg for a first cycle. That dose alone could get you your desired gains. I would advocate using an AI in place of the proviron. Do you have one on hand? Adex or aromasin is what I would suggest. Proviron is used by more advanced users who already know their bodies and the sides the are prone to get on cycle. Some users don't bloat enough to force them to use an AI and they use Proviron instead. In your case I would would keep it simple and worry about it in the future.
One last thing, why Nolva only for PCT? No clomid or even Aromasin.
Proviron is nice, I love it. Most people would say since this is your first cycle of test, use test only to see reactions. Proviron hardens me up and sheds the bload right off me, its known as a mild estrogen blocker and also makes more free test available . I don't see much harm in it although there are a lot of vets here that could elaborate further and why or why not to do it. Listen to them, some are very helpfull to those who aren't ignorant. Good luck on your cycle.