Test e and EQ best start and finish times
Just a theoretical question. Im not planning this cycle but been reading about compounds and cycles with test e EQ and anavar.
I also want to state that im on my first cycle of Test E right now and its going great. Something like this cycle MAY be my 2nd. Its way to early to say for sure but never too early to ask questions and learn something.
I see alot of peoples cycles Starting with Test E and EQ at the same time. Then they chop the EQ 2 weeks before they stop the test. Makes sense for the end so that you are coming off both around the same time, i get that part.
I feel that maybe in the beginning you should start the EQ for 2 weeks then start the Test E at the start of week 3. That way both compounds run simultaneously in the body.
This make sense to anybody else or am i missing something.
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I had the best results from a Test E/ EQ cycle and although im not sure if the EQ did it, on my hair line, i thinned out on both sides just a little bit. Anybody else with that same scenario? I've not run it since, which was 2 years ago. But id love to add it back of i can keep my hair. Lol
RustyhookerC23/H36/O3 is masteron
C20/H32/O2 is proviron.
Proof that the two aren't the same. Masteron hasn't been shown to free up testosterone as well where provi has been proven.
My other thought was just Test e at similar doses with var at the end. Worried about orals tho. But again I'm not sure where I will be by then or what my goals will be. Just love to learn
Post ur BF%.
I will but again wanna state this isn't something I'm definitely going to do. Just seeing what some of the consensus is. I'm starting week 5 of my first cycle. Test e 500mg week. So body fat went up from 11% to 13%. I'm waiting on my 2nd blood work results now. Haven't seen what estrogen does to me body yet either
RustyhookerRaise your cardio. Then you'll finish leaner but still keep growing
Dude, Test E and EQ kick in at the same time (give or take 2-5 days). One needs to start at same time or start EQ a week after the Test. EQ is just a injectable form of Dbol ( correct me if Im wrong). Some people "frontload" EQ but those are dudes who know their body very very well and have much experience with that exact compund. Test is the base, always have base in place throughout the entire cycle. Starting and ending with Test will always make a good transition into natty or a constant low dose of Test.
RustyhookerDude, you are 100% wrong on both accounts.
Explain both eq and dbol please.....
I said I could be wrong on the Dbol being oral EQ. So calm down dude. And what 2nd "account" am in
Misinformed on?
RustyhookerNoone is pissed.
Dbol was tweaked chemically to create equipoise. Chemically they're as related as H2O is to H2O2. One will kill ya.
Second account is eq does not kick in just 7 days after enanthate. Enanthate ramps up week 4. Eq ramps up closer to week 9.
For dudes second cycle running a 2 oil stack isn't recommended or easy.
No kidding and to think he was comparing something like equipoise to something like dbol.. op starts reading about eq thinking he is getting info on dbol...starts to use eq like dbol..geeez cant listen to anyone on here anymore.for good solid info....lol...lord have mercy!!
RustyhookerSo many chems, so lil time.lol. Older forums had a lot more info. Folks would expand, explain and cite. Or explore, since we're all labs rats.
Two chemists walk into a bar. The first says "I'll have a nice glass of H2O" the 2nd one says "I'll have a glass of H20 too" the second died. Just a joke to lighten the mood
Did the two chemists have a name cuz i think i was there that day?
Nice joke bro u made me smile...
RustyhookerThat's excellent! Hahaha!
Ramps up? I understand EQ's noticeable effects happen from week 8-12, but can easily say it starts working at week 4 with the increased appetite and increased red blood cell count, to which my blood
Panel confirmed. I was just answering the question asking if he should start the EQ 2 weeks earlier than the Test. You obviously have a lot of knowledge on the chemical makeup of the compound. I'm just going off my past experiences with EQ. I start the EQ (long ester, the short ester PIP was miserable) with Test E at the same time. I usually ran the Test 1 week longer than the EQ as well.
RustyhookerYes he can start earlier if he chose to.
Half life bro over placebo. Enanthate is 7 days. Bold und is 17. Logic .....enanthate shows on any graph or blood test as up to level about week 4. So logic plus I run eq every year....double the weeks because there is double the halflife.
Frontload in will also cause it to hit sooner. More hormone ready to cleave.
Roid calculator. Com or charts posted by cryhavok
And , imho, droppin a couple units during a long run only helps make bold better...
RustyhookerDefinitly! Saves a life on you won't feel wonky. Better on bp too.
I think a 15 week Test E/EQ for a second cycle is not bad. I think it is better than a 2nd cycle full of orals. Obviously this is all based of goals, diet, and one's personal schedule. That's just my opinion anyway, Iv been noticing that eroids has been more risk adverse to cycle advice in the last couple months. A year ago a EQ/test second cycle was perfectly acceptable... I guess I gotta get with the "times".
Its better to be safe than sorry. When i think of the risk of using AAS , i think about the time when all we did was inject it just to see what it would do...there were no forums like this to help and inform ignorant people on how to use and what to eat and what to do...and all the important shit...
RustyhookerNever was acceptable. Been here 4 years with some 40,000 comments in these forums. Sure, anyone can do tren first cycle as well. But dude still hasn't mastered nor mapped his body's reactions to estradiol.
At the beginner stages he can grow on first cycle with provi added. Try prop kicker n taper. Lot easier to eat and grow than 6 pins per week for 18 weeks
"But dude still hasn't mastered nor mapped his body's reactions to estradiol.".... good point, but not sure where you are calculating "6 pins a week"? Two 3ml pins a week can work, 500mg of Test and 500/600mg of EQ for 15 weeks.. that is a badass and low risk 2nd cycle, with good gains. Provi seems like a pretty underestimated hormone. I don't think many people know about it, as well as many sources on here that carry it. Once again I could be wrong on next comment, but isn't Provi the oral version of Mast P and E? (obviously different esters so different timing but overall effects are typically the same). Anyway, one oral added sounds more reasonable than another 3ml of oil...
Rustyhooker2 test...2 x 300eq....prop?
Not that you understand that eq isn't injectable dbol, post up a proper cycle. 2nd cycle doesn't need to be insane doses if he's busting ass. My first run with eq was only 400. Added 12 pounds.
From what I've seen it's not oral mast. Have to recheck the chemistry on it
Test E is usually dosed at 250mg a ml as well as 250mg of EQ per ml. So thats only 2 ml twice a week... I was being lax on the "3ml" day, so the question still stands... Where are you getting 6 pins a week?
RustyhookerYou'll bicker for a bag of dicks won't you. You couldn't even tell the difference between dbol and eq and you wanna spar. Lmao! Take your quiz and shove it up your ass till you taste it.
Idiot claims eq is injectable dbol. Hahaha! Douchebaggey
Damn, getting all personal now.. Ok man, I think debating on here is a form of passing on knowledge but I see you get easily offended. I was mistaken on the Dbol/EQ talk, and gave you credit on it 5 replays ago, but if you need to still to bring it up then so be it. I stated that I could be wrong at the beginning....Anyway, I guess this ends our EQ discussion.
Depending on what ester of boldenone you are talking about will explain your first sentence.
Boldenone in any form ester is not an injectable form of Dbol. Their molecular structures are different.
You should be looking into Boldenone Cypionate, it will kick in about same time than Test Ena no need to wait sir
couldn't agree more