posted Tue, 11/12/2013 - 08:48
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Test E 2nd cycle
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Hey all. Quick background.
22
6'4
205
13% bf.
working out for 7 years
2nd cycle.
Thinking....
1-12 test E 500. Split 2x week
Now my question is var or winny?
I'd like to go to about 210-215 at the end of this and 8% bf. ultimate goal.
Also any other suggestions?
No crazy cycles of 4+ compounds.
3 is my absolute max and that would be pushing it to me.
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Start eating more, problem solved. Dont run this cycle.
4K + calories a day. 1.5 - 2 gram protein per pound.
Just no growth
add more fat then. eat more peanut butter and more of the other nuts. I look at a candy bar and gain a pound.
When did you start your 1st cycle? if you took a normal cycle plus pct equals time off then that means you were probably 19 or 20. Don't take any offense to what I am going to post; this is only constructive. Why did you choose to use juice instead of using your natty test? Unless you were diagnosed with low t from a doctor you should put that shit away until you get older. At such a young age you should be more focused on diet and exercise and getting those 2 perfect. Stop trying to cheat because you only cheat yourself noone else. This is a marathon not a race. I am more concerned about your health and well being. We do not condone juice as the only way to be big and strong, we condone proper use and what you should know before you jump right into this world.
Yep I was 19 first cycle. Idiotic of me but can't change the past.
Not looking for short cuts, but I'm simply stuck. Cant gain anything.
Don't worry I won't take any offense. I love getting opinions and will always have an open ear.
But I don't personally see the harm in a basic test cycle as long as I follow proper pct and on cycle procedures.
The harm is how old you are and how you might be setting yourself up for failure. Your own hormones are still attempting to produce themselves and the chemicals you introduce could fuck that up so that is the harm. I don't see any harm drinking alcohol either but that could fuck you up as well. You cannot be stuck at your age, there are so many diet approaches; different training methods, e.t.c that do not take you down this road until you have absolutely hit your genetic wall. Don't give up so easily. At your age you aren't even close yet. The drop starts at 26.
How about things like igf? Clen? T4?
its not about filling your body with drugs, just discipline yourself. if you need to use those they are mostly for leaning out. If you are still hard pressed then I can suggest the e or c cycle for 12 weeks at 250 to 400mg a week. get bloodwork before you go on cycle check the forum here to how you can get that done. start your cycle and 3 weeks in get another blood test so you can keep an eye on shit. I still think your too young but who the fuck am I.