+ 1 Sustanon and Primobolan cycle advice needed
This is the first time I will be using Primo E. I have tried primo ace with a great success but this time I go with primo E. The Sustanon is pharma grade and Primobolan is also pharma grade. Can not decide the dosages I should run. I'm thinking sustanon 250, 375 or 500mg per week with Primo 700 or 1000 per week. I have read in forums that to really get the most out of primo it should be run at around 1000mg per week with low dosage of test. I am naturally quite big guy at around 250lbs off cycle with visible abs. So I am not trying to bulk up, only nice clean gains. I know the diet is the most important thing. If someone has a good experience with primo e please let me know what would be the perfect sustanon and primo dosages and what is the minimum length cycle I should run? I am staying away from tren and other harsh compounds.
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I do not have the experience, but your post is very useful to me, I hope there will be a place to ask you, if you don't mind.
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I do not have the experience, but your post is very useful to me, I hope there will be a place to ask you, if you don't mind.
RustyhookerGotta ask to be specific here. Lean bulk or finishing? I read it one way but can be taken as another.
Primo to add mass isnt good idea. Mass can be done with test/masteron or test/eq...clean is all foods.
Finishing for a sharp 8%....primo can be a great finisher if diet is the key.
Asking because masteron is bout 150 and full primo run is about 800.
I really don't want to put any bloated mass on. I have plenty of muscle on my frame. All I want is to polish it down. Its no problem if I put 5lbs on but if it is quality muscle then I am happy. Trying to maintain my bodyweight at 250lbs but be much leaner, increase lean muscle mass and decrease fat percentage. I know the main thing is the diet. That's why I am thinking to run sustanon at minimum effective dosage and let the primo do the job.
Exactly right, primo must be the lead singer if the above is the stated goal......... i was talking with rusty in PM that is the reason he asked for the specific goal, i love sustanon to pieces bro but for a really nice polished primo finish i would choose a slightly more stable ester like enth/cyp... and run it at a TRT amount i;e 150mg or 200mg max to allow the high dose primo and a strict carb controlled diet to shine through.
(Personally if i was looking for a primo finish i would run it standalone... if and i say "if" i felt i needed test adding i would run low dose test prop or TNE ED (low)........ not advising this for you or anyone else i am simply stating an Advanced option )
What in your opinion is an effective dose to be running primo at?
its been a while since i ran it bro but i used to respond well from a gram per week, i stopped using it when EQ and mast became available...... the last time i was around Primo was when we prepped Suze for the Universe.... the Metallic rock hard finish it gives made me want to give it another shot but the stupid pricing these days swayed me.
This pic was Two weeks after the Uni and she was still rock hard.
https://www.eroids.com/pics/drier-than-the-dessert
If my memory serves me correct dosing was @400mg.... (no higher)........ together with a Diuretic combo that was the finish we created.
(Pharma gear + Ultra strict dieting, 4.30am fasted cardio etc, etc etc...." lets be clear! its not just gear" )
Ohh yeah that pic is sweet!
That is what I like to see. I have heard alot about the finish that primo produces so I have been stocking up on the pharma to give it a go for my next prep. You might want to take a peek in the comp prep group when i put it up in there ...hint...
i just sent a request for membership........... i cant just walk in anymore since i retired my my MOD tag bro, are you the administrator?
you are all set now.
Thanks bro............ lets go see this primo plan
All ready for some constructive criticism
Nah... i dont do that anymore, these days i just get jealous seeing what all you guys are running lol.
At the moment i am walking around with an "Angel" on my right shoulder and a "Little Devil" on my left!... they are having a serious battle regarding jumping back "ON" to ease the pains im experiencing..... i feel like a Ratchet spanner that has been left out in the rain and gone rusty.
I havnt been Mortal for 3.5 decades bro.......... its fkn rubbish, i dont like it.
Anyways..... im gonna allow these two little fellas to fight over the xmas period because i will be taking a short break from the Dungeon due to the festivities, new year will produce a winner i suspect, and if i do jump back on it will be sensible and purely for pain relief/lubrication purposes, nothing more, i dont need to bulk or cut ever again so its purely maintenance.
Rustyhooker"gone rusty."
You're too tall for that! Lol!
lol.............. apologises bro, i should have said "creaky as fuck!!"
RustyhookerEither way it got a good laugh :). Lol
I spent a fortune on this cycle, I don't want to even think about it. It would be wonderful if I could add pharma hgh to this cycle but then again I have to feed my family, can't have everything I want...
you dont need GH bro............ dont worry about that ever, concentrate on carb intake with primo and you wil be fine.
Thank you all guys for good advices. I will swap sustanon with test e or test cyp as it really makes more sense.
RustyhookerAge: 38Height: 187cmWeight: 115kgBF:
Says abs visable up top.
bigmurphYou should also fill out your stats and give us your cycle history and what mgs you usually run
I'm 38, been cycling regularly last 6 years. Most of the time I do 1 longer cycle throughout the summer. Usually I am on short ester compounds test prop, mast, tren ace. Cut stacks. The dosages 350mg each per week. Sometimes I add anavar. Let say total gear mg per week 1000-1500. Only this year I had very messy cycle with long esters.
bigmurphWhat happened with the messy cycle also how much test are you use to awk on cycle
I had long 7 month cycle and I was changing the compounds every 6-8 weeks. Some of gear was bunk, some of it was underdosed. Test test e or test c I was using before 750mg. It was the perfect dosage for me. And test prop trough the summer 350mg is my sweet spot.
bigmurphHave you gotten bloods after the 7 month cycle that can really mess you up. You definitely need bloods to see where you're at before starting this cycle. How long have you been off since last cycle
I finished the cycle first week of September. There is a post of my bloods in my pictures. I had 3 pct's and now I feel fine. But next week I'm getting bloods again just to see where I am. Libido could be better but my wife is not complaining yet so I assume I am fine. But you are right I must check my bloods before I start the cycle again.
bigmurphI was just worried about your health brother just cause you look good on the outside doesn't mean you look good on the inside
Just wanted to make sure you were good and if the wife isn't complaining that's a good sign lol
bigmurphI would say you should run test e or c with primo especially because you want to run a low dose with sust you have to pin 3x a wk and that will put you at 750 or i guess you could pin 1/2ml 3x a wk and you would be at 375mg if i were going to run primo i would ru 400-600 especially since its pharma. You don't say how long you plan on running but with primo you should run 16wks minimum
If you tell us how many
Sust amps?
Primo amps?
It would make it easier to figure out how many mgs a. Wk and how long you can run but I would say 16wks minimum
I have 50 amps sust and 150 amps primo. I know test e or test c would be better choice but I chose these products only because it is pharma and only these pharma products were available at that moment. I don't mind to pin everyday.
bigmurphWell brother then you definitely have enough to run how ever you want
I would run primo 1-18 700-800mg pin ed 100mg or pin 200 eod
1-18 sust you can pin eod 1amp or 3x a wk 1 amp
I hope you have your ai on hand to use and your pct ready because you aregoing to run for a long time you are going to need a strong 5-6wk pct
Possibly use some hcg
RustyhookerCurious why you'd ruin a primo run with test at 750 a week?
bigmurphBecause he wants to run sust I told him test e or c would be a better choice so he doesn't have to pin sust 3x a wk i personally would run 300mg test e a wk with primo at 700-800
Rustyhooker"-18 sust you can pin eod 1amp or 3x a wk 1 amp"
Oh....I read 1 amp 3x a week which is a waste. Run masteron and no primo if ya go high test. I misread
Sust has long Half Life, so need to check clearance time. Last sust run I went 5 week taper.
bigmurphOn your sust run 5 weak taper how did you do that with the sust or the taper is with prop
Rustyhookerhttps://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/primobolan-wh...
Good read ^^^^^^. Taper--adv cycle rather not say. Its posted in adv group though.
bigmurphThats a great link on running primo IWas surprised he ran with sust in the link but his reasons make complete sense.
Thanks for the link rusty
Another im going to add to my collection
I like the primo dose and the longer you run it the better. He is kind of in a bind with the sust since he only has amps so he will need to pop a ml at a time. I wouldn't mind running higher test in the beginning say an amp MWF or even eod depending on prior cycles and then switching over to test e or c at the last half of the cycle and running more of a maintenance dose to let the effects of the primo show through without potentially being covered up from excess water from the higher test. (I actually like the idea of using test P with the primo since you basically need to be pinning eod or ED to reduce the amount of oil per shot). Now if you are looking to do this as a strictly mass building cycle then just keep the test higher all through the cycle and slam the protein.
Thank you bro for your advice. Test prop would be for me ideal choice cos I do not get bloated from it. I am trying not to put too much mass on, cos then I start looking square like a box, not funny at all
Maintenance dose of test prop for duration of cycle (bump the prop up to kick with for the first month) with some provi should keep you dry and hard all cycle. Could likely get by without any AI (confirm with bloods.) Should be able to keep most of what you gain on that cycle also.
I agree. Keep test moderate, add some good provi and sail on that primo. If je can run 1g pharma primo the reults should be amazing.
I really like proviron the way it makes me look and I would definitely add it to my cycle. 50mg is sweet spot for me.
bigmurphI agree proviron is a good addition especially if low test dose it should handle estro without crashing it do you think 25mg or 50mg
I like 50mg on cycle split am/pm. Never noticed any benefit from going above 50 but I do notice a bump in libido going from 25 to 50.
bigmurphYeah that's definitely true you have to feed that primo as much protein as possible to get it to work its magic
Yes I have a lot of nolva, arimidex and letro, clomid, aromasin and hcg, everything is pharma. Thank you for your advice bro, I really like it.
bigmurphGet some advice from vike like rusty said he can definitely help you better than I can with this cycle but yeah that's my opinion
Good luck brother hope you get some great gains off of this cycle
RustyhookerNo brand or source chat. Fix it before karma gets bonked
Fixed. If something still is not right then please let me know.
RustyhookerThanks bro! I'll leave this one for viking. He's got mad skills and I've not run primo yet. Is your bf lean to show the full effects?