posted Mon, 04/16/2012 - 05:16
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Summer STACK, opinions?
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Even though I am only halfway through my current pct, can't help but prepare for the next. Considering this is my first PROPER pct, it's an amazing thing/feeling to be keeping my gains and still feel decent or at least not shut down. Wish I had a better mentor back in the day. So here is the cycle, any changes you guys would make? Got HCG on hand. Would you prop kick start or taper or is the dbol more than enough? Hoping to BLOW up on this cycle since it is my first time truely keeping my gains and Im starting at a much better base than usual. Goal is for a solid lean bulk, add 15lb muscle. Thanks for any input.
Blue heart DBOL-30mg ed 1-4
ARL EQ-600mg 1-12/1200mg week 1
ARL SUST-750mg 1-13
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tread-mYeah I'm with Vike here brother, I'd drop the dbol as well. If you do run it I'd run a half tab of aromasin or adex eod through the dbol run and maybe an extra few days to help maintain quality. I would drink water like crazy on a sust run and reduce salt dramatically. While many will say test is test, and thats true, I hold water worse on sauce than anything. The reason for that IMO is the fluctuation in ester and estro prompting as a result of that fluctuation. This is in part why I would say split your mg's of your compounds into eod hits, this helps maintain a more stable environment with an unstable product. Plenty of stack in ester after about 4 weeks so even as vike suggests a possible 500 on the sauce is still a nice run. I would also prefer a little prop addition over the dbol as I think we are talking about a higher quality situation.
UFODamn, and I've been dying to try these blue hearts! Is the main reason for dropping the dbol due to how much water I will retain from it vs. a kickstart with prop will be all solid gains? Cuz I do have prop on hand too. Choices choices...and change from M/W/F to EOD for the sust and eq? How much prop would you kick start with since I'm already running a little with the sust? Sorry for all the questions. Great advice all around, thanks brother!
My personal favourite stack but without d/bol, would prefer prop boot up myself with eod pinning,if bloat starts to appear you can drop back to 500 with the sust and pretty much still get the same results (your choice) with diet and training on point with quality rest you will for sure hit the 15lb mark maybe more.
UFOThanks for your help brother.
T was with you first bro so i will just cruise in the background if he dont come back shortly i will jump back in,your plan sounds ok but i will need BF% thanks.
UFOSorry about the lack of info.
Age 24 5'10" 182 BF% not sure Id say around 10-12%, I am very lean.
Will be my 4th or 5th cycle. My first 8months-yr of cycling was all wrong, no pct besides hcg and a lot of bridging. I crashed for about 3 months after, and waited 6 months before trying gear again only because my sex drive/mood was back in full swing and I had big nuts again.
I am going to get bloods taken in one month before I do anything, which will be 2 1/2 months after my last pin.
Got anastrozole on hand but am not prone to estrogen sides.
HCG would be 500iu per week after week 4 with an HCG blast after the cycle finishes, before serms.
And great point on the pin frequency that was something I needed advice on. I was thinking a M/W/F pin sched. so that I can keep my mg the same per week and stack it with eq each pin. I do want to get the most out of my sust though, so if eod is better, I will go with that.
Hope that helps, thanks.
Take it that if you are on your first proper PCT this was your first cycle?????
Big T asks for stats bro thats important right now espeicially BF% this is a mean stack you are about to run and has the potential to go horribly wrong if you are not in the correct shape now ok.
UFONaw man...I wish it was my first cycle, but no its more like my 4th cycle, but this is my first with proper pct(serms and hcg, always just used hcg). Lets just say I had no idea there was such a strong knowledgable community of gear heads online, so I just took advice from the one dude I got shit from. This dick head threw me on deca my first cycle, tren my second and said hed cycle for 18 months at a time. I learned quickly this wasnot how you run gear...
Jeezus we are talking major shut down,only thing working correctly in your body would be your lungs just to keep you breathing,how long before you got HPTA ticking over properly bro!!!
UFOTook me about a month before anything would properly work down there, 3 months to get sex drive, mood and the ability to hold/gain weight again. And that was with an HCG blast. If I only knew the things I know now...
tread-mNeed to say how you will pin in frequency , AI in the dbol run?, hcg use?, etc etc...as to prop kick, you are kinda kicking with sust a bit if used properly and combined with dbol. Age with stats and cycle history?
UFOFixed brother..thanks!